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  1. #1
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    Jan 2010
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    Quad Cities, Illinois, USA
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    Default Ziegler's Experience

    All,

    I am new to beekeeping, and thus new to Top Bar hives this year. I started with building a KTBH last winter, and I am planning on building a Warre for next year.

    I added a 3lb package of Italian Bees to the hive on May 2nd to 10 bars of space I have already had to deal with a minor amount of cross comb which has since been straightened by cutting off portions of comb and placing those bars in between straight bars.

    I recently placed 4 empty bars in between 5 full bars.

    I am enjoying the hobby, and learning quite a bit. A math error led me to build a hive that is a bit smaller than I had wanted (volumetrically speaking), but it is something I can remedy this winter by building a longer hive of similar cross section.

    I wanted to share some of my pictures:
    http://media.adamziegler.net/media.php?d=bees

    Thank you!
    Last edited by adamziegler; 06-11-2010 at 03:46 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
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    Red Hook Ny
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    Default Re: Ziegler's Experience

    I think some of your cross combing issues are being caused by your guides, or the lack thereof. That little bead of beeswax is too easy for them to ignore. Try a strip of foundation, a Popsicle stick, a triangle of wood, or something else of substance.

  3. #3
    Join Date
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    Portland, OR, USA
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    Default Re: Ziegler's Experience

    Nice pictures.

    Like bakerboy said, I'd give a larger guide a try. I've never had any luck with wax beads without a popsicle stick or wedge in place for them to build from. We use wedges in all of our top bar hives that we sell and have had tremendous success with them -- without any wax whatsoever. Just dump in the bees and let them build.

    Cheers,
    Matt

  4. #4
    Join Date
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    Location
    Slovenia
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    Default Re: Ziegler's Experience

    bakerboy : I only use bead of beeswax. Works pretty good for me.
    Remember to keep hives level ! Remember beespace at both ends of the hive !

    I use just these kind of top bars now. Bead of wax and 32mm top bar. Works better than.

    http://www.apislo.info/forum/img/gal...1274797600.jpg
    http://www.apislo.info/forum/img/gal...1273688638.jpg
    http://www.apislo.info/forum/img/gal...1273688516.jpg
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  5. #5
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    Default Re: Ziegler's Experience

    Thank you all for the responses!

    I actually seem to have the cross combing under control for now. None of my pictures really show how much wax I put on the bars, which was just shy of the width of a Popsicle stick all the way across. The 4 bars or so that where cross combed were only problematic on 1/4 of the bar length where the bees actually built across my strip of wax I had in palce.

    This picture shows a bar where I might have under placed the wax strip:
    http://media.adamziegler.net/bees/20100506/2_queen.jpg

    Strangely enough, it seemed to me that the bees removed portions of the strip I had in place. This bar pictured was actually one without cross combing.

    Here are a couple more showing the straight comb:
    http://media.adamziegler.net/bees/20.../1_bar10-9.jpg
    http://media.adamziegler.net/bees/20100609/6_window.jpg

    Cacklewack... the next KTBH I make, I think I will try triangle wood guides!
    Last edited by adamziegler; 06-11-2010 at 04:00 PM.

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