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    Default My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    I was blessed with transition leave, upon retiring from the USAF, and found myself with lots of free time on my hands. So, I decided to intern with Mike Palmer in Vermont for 2 weeks. I arrived April 25th in St Albans Vermont. April 26th, began pulling frames for nucs Mike was selling to about 200 customers. April 27th--it began to snow & French Hill got one foot of the white stuff. April 28th--power went out for 36 hours--welcome to spring in Vermont. April 29th until May 6th, we worked our off reversing and supering. I have a newfound appreciation of what commercial beekeeping is all about.

    Than ks Mike for the good times, the education and the memories!

    Photos are attached.

    http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ping%20Photos/
    "...the most populous colonies ...are provided by queens ...in the year following their birth." Brother Adam

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    very cool, Im sure that was a great experience.
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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Nice pictures! I've got to put in for my two weeks one of these days. How picky is he in who he allows to visit?
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Great, I was wondering how he got those half-sized frames drawn out? I take it those blocks in the middle are for support. Would you mind explaining a little please. Thanks, Adrian.

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Sounds like fun, can I sign up for 2 weeks next year?

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Hi Adrian,

    Those half sized frames are for Mike's mating nucs which are a 10 frame deep body split into four sections. The bar "blocks" allows for versatility/flexibility so that Mike can use his mating nuc frames in his Langstroth length nucs.

    How he gets them drawn out specifically are unknown to me, I'd have to defer to him for the answer, but I'd think that it would not be any harder than getting a normal deep frame drawn out.
    "...the most populous colonies ...are provided by queens ...in the year following their birth." Brother Adam

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Sounds like fun, can I sign up for 2 weeks next year?
    Talk with him, and ask. Mike has a quote that I like: "Good help doesn't cost, it pays." Which means he's grateful for any and all support and help he could get. I think every commercial beekeeper enjoys help, and if you don't get in the way, and actually lighten his load and stress, then that's a good thing.

    As for me, the knowledge and learning was tremendous. It was like being a priest in training and getting to spend time studying at the Vatican. I'm a Mike Palmer fan, and it shows, but you get the idea.
    "...the most populous colonies ...are provided by queens ...in the year following their birth." Brother Adam

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    How picky is he in who he allows to visit?
    Barry, I've been keeping bees for only 3 years. While I think I know what I'm doing, I found it very helpful to erase my own predjudices and simply listen to what Mike wanted me to do in his yards. I tried to do exactly what he asked. If someone were working my bees, I'd want them to do the same thing. Mike told me later, that he really enjoyed my company and said I anticipated his moves to be there to help him when he needed it. It was like I could read his mind and know what he needed and when. I know you've been keeping bees longer than I, so your intuition is better too. Translation: Mike said to me, "Good help never costs, it pays." He likes help, but I'd figure he's as picky as you might be in your own yard.
    "...the most populous colonies ...are provided by queens ...in the year following their birth." Brother Adam

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Dude ranch equivalent for beekeeping? Maybe there could be a market for that.

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    What does he do for queens for those nuc's??

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Great pictures! Thanks for sharing!
    "If all you have is a hammer, the whole world is a nail." - A.H. Maslow

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandy View Post
    What does he do for queens for those nuc's??
    Not sure I totally understand your question. What does he do with the queens he raises? He sells some and uses others to sustain his beekeeping operation. He is all sold out for 2010. I'm hoping to get some queens from him in 2011.
    "...the most populous colonies ...are provided by queens ...in the year following their birth." Brother Adam

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    That's awesome. Great pics and what a great guy to intern for. MP is a great man. Thank You for your service in USAF
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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Congrats on your two weeks with Mike. I picked up 15 four frame nucs from him earlier in the month and they are most all ready for their 2nd deep now. Call me a very happy customer.

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    What a fantastic experience! The best way in the world to learn...would love to do something similar myself!

    As others have said...thank you for your service to this country.

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    "What does he do for queens for those nuc's??"

    Just wondering what his source for queens in April is. I was curious if he uses his overwintered queens from last year for the nuc's? Is April nice enough to raise his own '10 queens for these nuc's? Or does he bring in outside genetics from other queen producers for these April - May nuc's? Or do the nuc's raise their own queens? Just wondering.

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandy View Post
    "What does he do for queens for those nuc's??"

    Just wondering what his source for queens in April is. I was curious if he uses his overwintered queens from last year for the nuc's? Is April nice enough to raise his own '10 queens for these nuc's?
    As I understand it, the idea of a sustainable apiary is to make nucs to overwinter the previous summer using local queens, and those queens become your early Spring queens the next year. Not sure what the timing is in the Northern North East, but even way down here in Virginia, local queens are not available generally until mid May. This year Spring was a little early.
    karla

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    thanks for sharing, I enjoyed it.
    Dan

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    I should jump in here, to answer a few questions. Thanks for the kind words.

    Keith...thanks so much for the help. You were able to fit right into the crew and help us get a long job finished on time. All the nucs went out...well 5 more are going out this weekend. Not many 3 year beekeepers who could do that. How'd yer wife like the beard. He, Hee, Heee! :-)

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    Default Re: My two weeks with Michael Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Nice pictures! I've got to put in for my two weeks one of these days. How picky is he in who he allows to visit?
    Depends on who's askin'. Barry the Beekeeper or Barry The Moderator :-)

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