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    Default Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Are bloom dates recorded suppose to be the first appearance of color, the peak of the blossom, or what?

    Bloom Dates - 2009: http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...oom-Dates-2009
    Last edited by Barry; 01-31-2013 at 08:44 AM. Reason: add link

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    Default Re: Please Post Your Bloom Dates!

    The #1 post in this thread has the instructions, & a link to the website that correlates all the data for you're zipcode.

    Once you have it setup you can go back & see when things bloomed the previous year. More people should use this its prity cool
    Dan

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    Default Re: Please Post Your Bloom Dates!

    I'm the guy collecting all this data
    It's become obvious to me it's not going to serve it's original purpose of allowing us to predict when things will bloom based on GDD
    If you go look at when "apples", for example, bloom, the posts don't group all the data together by GDD
    on the other hand, as KQ6AR says, it's still a nice little package of info
    As long as people post it here I will continue to collect it
    If anyone has thoughts on how to display stuff differently let me know
    I sorta got caught up in collecting the info and got lazy on displaying it

    What I want is
    zipcode
    date when the plant first bloomed
    name of the plant
    any comment you add gets added to the database so give detailed info about what was going on, if it was the end of the bloom just add that to the comments

    Dave

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    Default Re: Please Post Your Bloom Dates!

    Why not start at the first of the yaer with the new years data? Past info would be just that "Past data from previous years"

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    Default Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    What is needed:

    •zipcode
    •date when the plant first bloomed
    •name of the plant
    •any comment you add gets added to the database so give detailed info about what was going on, if it was the end of the bloom just add that to the comments
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    1/15/2010

    75233, in Oak Cliff, south Dallas, Texas, we've got dandelions blooming. I was surprised to see so much bloom despite having some really cold weather. I haven't got my own bees yet (they arrive in April) but I have been noticing small numbers of bees out on the dandelions in the afternoons.

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Beaver Dam wrote

    Why not start at the first of the yaer with the new years data? Past info would be just that "Past data from previous years"
    elaborate on what you mean
    currently if you select a zipcode and click "get blooms" you get the blooms for that zipcode in chronological order
    do you mean on the map thing?
    I guess I could add a pick box to display blooms for a particular year or all years
    that's not too hard, is that what you mean?
    the original idea was that you would want to see the bloom info for a certain plant from past years so you could try to predict when that plant would bloom this year. for this you need old data not this years stuff. I'm open to other options, explain what you have in mind

    Dave

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

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    eucalyptus
    Dan

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Sorry for the delay.
    Yea, what I was thinking is that when you went to the site you would post your information as in now ( present). There would then be a window that you could open that would allow you to look at past years. That way when I went to site I could look and see what happened in the past year, what plant and when that plant bloomed. Thanks Dro.

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    if I understand you correctly you can already do something like that
    go to the main window(the first one you come to) select your zipcode from the combobox on the left, then click "get blooms" which is right below the combobox
    you should get a table listing all the bloom data you have posted in chronological order
    so far nobody has posted enough data to be worth breaking it out by year
    if this isn't what you were looking for let me know, sometimes it's hard to talk about such stuff in a text only forum

    the original idea was you would try to look at bloom data for a plant from many locations and try to use that to predict when it would bloom near you. you're supposed to be able to do this by selecting the plant from the combobox on the right then click "table view" it should show you the number of growing degree days for different bllom reports from all over. when I look at it I see the GDD field seems to be messed up. I'll have to go check that out

    Dave

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

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    January 12

    Maple
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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    I'm tring to learn, seems to me that there could be a way to monitor the bloom dates on a scale that when I looked at it, I would see a progression of blooms say starting in Houston and radiating to the rest of the parts of the USA as a rainbow efect.

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    I might be able to do something like that
    The map is a free thing from google and I can only do things that I can coax out of it
    would this be based on date or growing degree days (for a description of GDD see the beginning of the original thread)
    I wanted to make something like you describe that would show the progression of GDD's across the country and blooms together but I haven't been able to get the math to work

    Dave

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    That would probably have to be done with a specific plant. Like maple over the spring months.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    let me use maples to illustrate my idea
    I could set the map thing to redraw itself every 5 seconds
    the first update would show all maple blooms up through Jan 5
    the second through Jan 10
    the third up through Jan 15
    ....etc... out through the last posted bloom
    it's going on a map so you could watch the progress south as the year goes on
    that part wouldn't be too hard
    I also wanted to draw lines on the map showing curves representing how growing degree days were progressing
    Like the ones on a weather map showing lines of equal pressure or temp
    drawing lines on the map is easy
    I played with the math to generate the curves for a while but couldn't get it to work, I may take another stab at it if I can find some time
    one consideration is that the more complex it gets the faster computer the user needs. thats why these new browsers from google and fire fox are so great, the run javascript much faster (hint, hint, dump internet explorer today)

    Dave

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Yea. Sounds like fun. Monitor plants from south to north.

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Mahonia
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    The bees were working it that day as it was about 55-60 degrees F.

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Say for the maple bloom, if the map just had dates on it. It could show the year to date bloom dates. That would show how that particular bloom moved across the country.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    you can click on any of the icons and a little popup window will tell you the date of that bloom
    I guess it would be nice if you could see them all at once without clicking on them
    I'm thinking I'd need to generate custom icons for each report
    I'll have to think about that a little, it would make the icons a lot bigger but I do have a tool that could make the custom icon
    let me think about that

    Dave

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    Default Re: Post Your Bloom Dates - 2010

    Hi Dave,
    Not trying to over work you. I'm just brainstorming outloud.
    Dan
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