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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Thanks for the link...it sucks for me because I just bought 300 slotted top and bottom frames from Dadant, would have saved me a bunch of time!

    I sent Dadant an email.
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    There is a price break down to $.68 for over 100 on mediums.
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Thanks for the links!
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Very nice I'll be picking some up this summer.

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by lupester View Post
    There is a price break down to $.68 for over 100 on mediums.
    Where are you finding this? I didn't see it anywhere and putting 100 in the cart still charges you .95 each. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    I talked to a lady there and asked about it.
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    I didn't see it anywhere and putting 100 in the cart still charges you .95 each. Thanks.
    I just called Kelley at 1-800-233-2899. These are so new that they are not in the recently mailed new catalog nor have they been placed on the web site yet. Med. frames 100-499 are .68 each and 500-999 are .66 each, but you will have to call at this time. Hope this helps.
    "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." Nathan Hale, 1776

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Is the bottom bar solid?

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Would these frames require wiring them or anything else not needed when using foundation?

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Hm, Anyone used frames similar to this before?

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Thanks guys.

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    From what I understand, the deep foundationless frames still need to be horizontally wired... Gives much needed additional support to the comb. So I'm wiring 800 of mine... wish I didn't have to, but figure the advice is solid.

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenG View Post
    From what I understand, the deep foundationless frames still need to be horizontally wired... Gives much needed additional support to the comb. So I'm wiring 800 of mine... wish I didn't have to, but figure the advice is solid.

    So are you extracting these deeps or using them for brood?

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    It is well worth the time puting wiring into your frames makes working much easer. they will be stronger and straight built combs

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    mcooper, I use deeps just for brood...but you just never know. So I wire.
    "never say never"

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenG View Post
    mcooper, I use deeps just for brood...but you just never know. So I wire.
    "never say never"
    Dumb question for a beekeeper of 10 years...do I have to heat the wire and get it in the foundation?


    I ordered 10 of these frames this afternoon I'll give them a try and report back how they work for me.

  18. #18
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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Yes, I've been using similar frames for years and they work great.

    No, I don't wire them.

    No, you don't have to, nor can you heat the wire to embed it in the foundation because there will be no foundation. You can, if you wish, put wire in the frame.

    www.bushfarms.com/beesfoundationless.htm
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    Yes, I've been using similar frames for years and they work great.

    No, I don't wire them.

    No, you don't have to, nor can you heat the wire to embed it in the foundation because there will be no foundation. You can, if you wish, put wire in the frame.

    www.bushfarms.com/beesfoundationless.htm
    I should have clarified....do I need to embed wires in my frames with foundation? I have 50 right now that I could wire up. I do use vertically wired foundation.

    I figure that the wire will help the foundationless frames be stronger...so I don't mind doing it.

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    Default Re: Kelley's now sell foundationless frames

    will the bees build around the wires?

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