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    Default what shrubs to plant?

    I'd like to plant a privacy hedge along the road, maybe 300' long. I'm looking for a (or several different) native shrub(s) that will provide some pollen and/or nectar for the bees and maybe some berries for birds, too. I'd like to find something that grows between 4-10' tall in zone 5/6. Deer resistance would be a plus.

    I know I'd need to plant acres and acres of anything to make a difference in honey production , but every little bit helps, right?

    I've looked through lists and links found on Beesource, but I need to narrow it down to my specs.

    Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    This might give you some good ideas, if you haven't already seen it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norther...for_honey_bees

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Privet hedge

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Quote Originally Posted by rickh View Post
    Privet hedge

    I heard that priviet makes nasty tasting honey? Can anyone confirm?
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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Found serveral links on priviet

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../155206a0.html

    http://www.honeyshow.co.uk/preparati...of_honey.shtml

    http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...010423042.html

    Vitex (chase tree) grows as a shrub and flowers when most things are not in bloom. Only down side to screening is it loses its leaves in winter.
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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    There ought to be a variety of Holly that would work, and bees love that when it is in bloom.

    Privet honey supposedly is bad, but my bees work it when it blooms in the neighborhood and my honey tasted great. A little mixed in won't hurt, apparently.

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Anyone know anything about Photinia’s? My mom has a lot of Asian Photinia’s. I know it’s not native, but when it blooms it looks like every bee within foraging distance is working them.

    Good privacy hedge.
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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    If you wan't privet come on by my house and dig up all you want. Can't get rid of the ---- stuff,it's everywhere. FREE ;YES;FREE All you can take.

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    We had a great fall privet bloom this year, & the honey is very good.
    Dan

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Try some St. Johnswort, 4-5' bush type. I have 5 plants that are loaded with bees for a couple of weeks in august. Both the deer & elk don't touch the stuff, but the bees sure love it. It's easy to start cuttings off of. I started about 100 plants that I wll be lining my driveway with along with some california poppies. Good luck

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    A few of my neighbors have a shrub that the bees like and it never loses its leaves in the winter. I will ask what it is and post.

    It is photinia. I have seen bees work it but I have seen more bees on holy though.



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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Eleagnus fruitlandii ( Russian Olive) makes a huge evergreen shrub that my bees have swarmed to from September till frost. The little friuts also make a jelly.

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Quote Originally Posted by magnet-man View Post
    It is photinia. I have seen bees work it but I have seen more bees on holy though.
    That looks like the Red Tip Photina. Pretty disease prone. The asian type my mom has does not seem to be. She has had them for 30+ years. Not sure what the "bee" difference is. But I see many more working the asian over the reds.
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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Yup...The Chinese photinia is a super dependable oldie that's been passed over because it has no flaming red new growth.They can be had around old home places---with owner's permission, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtlWilli View Post
    They can be had around old home places---with owner's permission, of course.
    Are the asians not sold anymore? I have never looked for them. Not sure how they reproduce, seed, cuttings, ect.. I would like to know.
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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Some nurseries have them....You are right about reproduction, except you can get root sprouts, also. They do get big, so an old one may resemble a heavily branched tree.

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Not sure how they reproduce, seed, cuttings, ect.. I would like to know.

    My book says Photinia (doesn't distinguish) can be propogated by taking greenwood or semi-ripe cuttings at the node, placed in free-draining medium from summer to winter. They root well in rockwool plugs with high levels of rooting hormone. Seeds can be sown in spring.

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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Quote Originally Posted by LtlWilli View Post
    Some nurseries have them....You are right about reproduction, except you can get root sprouts, also. They do get big, so an old one may resemble a heavily branched tree.
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    Default Re: what shrubs to plant?

    Everything is now worked out now, Omie. I appreciate your offer of help, though.
    Thanks,
    Rick

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