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  1. #1
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    Default Failure To Communicate

    Isn't this a fine mess.



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    Default Re: Failure To Communicate

    Is that "laying worker"?

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    Classic example of just that Lil Grain.
    Perry

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    I've seen too much of that this year!
    "My wife always wanted girls. Just not thousands and thousands of them......"

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    That photo has to be the best one ever posted of laying workers.
    Did someone get a new camera?
    I hope that the photo was not taken of a recent queen purchase.

    Ernie
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    michael, i think that is more like, "failure to copulate"...or "falure to make it home from copulation" ...assuming this was a mating nuc.

    deknow

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    HA! Fine photo, better than any book I've seen.

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    Thanks for posting that picture. Wish I could see that good if I were looking into my frames.Great capture.

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    Default Re: Failure To Communicate

    ok mike...your next assignment is to get one of the "snowflake" that laying workers sometimes leave in queen cups

    deknow

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    I wish I could see that good with my glasses on!
    Nice pic Michael.
    I'm fortunate, none of that in my yard this year.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    ok mike...your next assignment is to get one of the "snowflake" that laying workers sometimes leave in queen cups

    deknow
    Snowflake??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    That photo has to be the best one ever posted of laying workers.
    Did someone get a new camera?
    I hope that the photo was not taken of a recent queen purchase.

    Ernie
    New last year. Cost 120 queens. Nikon D-300/nikon 105mm, f 2.8 macro

    Laying workers in mating nuc. If the nuc doesn't get a laying queen by the time all the brood hatches, laying workers usually develop. You get 2 chances with cells. After that, it's tough to get a call accepted. I usually give a cell the third time, because a nuc with laying workers will accept a cell...sometimes. If they reject again, the nuc gets united.

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    So can unite a laying worker nuc with a Queen right nuc without a problem?......Randy

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    Default Re: Failure To Communicate

    So, exactly how did you take that pic?

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    It must be photo shopped!8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WCMN View Post
    So can unite a laying worker nuc with a Queen right nuc without a problem?......Randy
    Si se puede...yes you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeptime View Post
    So, exactly how did you take that pic?
    No photoshop. 105 macro with extension tubes. Could have been better, but I need accellerator with my super fast 26.4 internet speed...Without, it might take a week to upload.

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    Default Re: Failure To Communicate

    Somebody needs bookmark this one for beginners. It's the best way I have seen to explain laying workers.

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    Default Laying Workers/Queen Cup

    Don't know what your "Snowflake" is Deknow. But, what I have seen is miltiple eggs in queen cups. Really a dead givaway. Sometimes, laying workers are a bit difficult to diagnose. Sure, there are a few cells with multiple eggs. New queens will do that, too. When you see a queen cup like this, in a colony that might have gone to laying workers, you can be sure.


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    yes, almost.

    when erik and markus were out here, we went through our hives in new brantree. i saw what looked like a snowflake in a queencell, it was, of course, a ton of eggs. the mass was (predictibly) denser in the middle and fanned out at the extremities. they both knew what it was immediately...i had seen laying workers before, but never that.

    deknow

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