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  1. #201
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    Default Re: Meeting Bee Nutritional Requirements

    Nutra-Bee video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETLi3Jquor4&NR=1

    (No starving bees!)
    Ernie
    Ernie
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    Default Re: Meeting Bee Nutritional Requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    If you want to "dump" your soy flour onto your bees, go ahead.
    But, it does not have all of the known essential amino acids for bee nutrition.
    Ernie
    That was kinda my point. I'm sorry if it wasn't that clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    I have addressed many of the other feed stuffs for nutrition.
    Keith and I have provided data that will answer your questions.
    They weren't questions, more like comments. You can't compare protein alone, or protein to dollars alone. I know full well that you are aware of that, I was just making sure others were clear.

    Although, the questions I did have (based on consistency, drying out, non-stick) were not answered in this thread (at least from what I remember, it's over 20 pages now). I've been adding type 55 corn syrup to the mixture (recommended in this thread), which helps with the drying out part, but makes it a very sticky mixture. If I then add more flour, it's not so sticky but way too thick. Still toying with it. Just commenting that I'm having a hard time getting it to Keith's consistency.

    No criticism to your work was intended Ernie. I'm a follower.

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    Default Re: Meeting Bee Nutritional Requirements

    Saturday, October 01, 2011.
    Updated Pollen Substitute R & D.
    The lab tests are in and here are the results.
    15.7% Protein
    49% Sugar
    6.31% Oil
    And, the bees are consuming their patties!
    Ernie
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    Default Re: Meeting Bee Nutritional Requirements

    11/25/2012
    A reminder about the addition of oils in a pollen substitute.

    http://www.beeccdcap.uga.edu/documen...Article10.html
    3. Other Nutrition

    3.1. Sterols and Lipids

    A sterol, 24-methylene cholesterol, is common in pollen and is the major sterol source for honey bees. Nearly all insects need to obtain sterol from their diet because of their inability to synthesize them directly. Sterol is the precursor for important hormones such as molting hormone, which regulates growth because it is required at the time of each molt. It is not clear what other lipids are required by honey bees, but most likely normal consumption of pollen provides for all the lipid requirements. Pollen with low fat content is less likely to be consumed by honey bees, but can be made more attractive to bees with the addition of lipids. The total lipid concentration within a pollen supplement is recommended to be 5%8%.
    Ernie
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