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  1. #281
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    Default Re: Dealings with Long Creek Apiaries

    Im only 2 hours away from this [guy]. Anybody wanna take a road trip and get the bees that are owed to us? Or the money.
    Last edited by Barry; 08-08-2011 at 05:39 AM. Reason: name calling

  2. #282
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    i’d take a road trip, i'd even drive to alabama and i have never been to alabama or tennessee. elpaso, wisconsin is about a 16 ½ hour drive away, but if I’m going to tennessee, i’m going to collect my money……and from my personal experience with david winters, beemaster01, david winters doesn’t have my money, and considering all the excuses, threats and insults he has sent me for not refunding my money i think i’d just be doing a lot of sight seeing.
    best of luck to you on a road trip….

  3. #283
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    Regards, Barry

  4. #284
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    Default Re: Dealings with Long Creek Apiaries

    This thread would make a great reality TV series.

  5. #285
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    thank you barry for the link on the story and video from utah news. still waiting on a refund for $740 from david winters from march 2010. my veil is off to this guy for getting the attention of a local reporter to do a story. just want my refund, that's all.

  6. #286
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    #8 beemaster01 2011-08-23 21:13
    I give up. I am selling colonies to pay for refunds but that isn't enough. I will just liquidate, turn assets over to a trustee which will sell them for almost nothing and he will divide it up between you. Happy? Probably not but there is nothing that will make you happy. Bye

  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemaster01 View Post
    #8 beemaster01 2011-08-23 21:13
    I give up. I am selling colonies to pay for refunds but that isn't enough. I will just liquidate, turn assets over to a trustee which will sell them for almost nothing and he will divide it up between you. Happy? Probably not but there is nothing that will make you happy. Bye
    funny you say that about a trustee david. in December 2010, according to you, you said your attorney was holding funds in a trust fund for cancelled orders for all your customers that wanted refunds instead of bees, and that there was no question that those who wanted refunds would be paid when your divorce was settled. you reported here that your divorce was settled…. quote from you in this forum, post # 230, on may 29, 2011:

    “She walked away from it with a cash settlement which will take me three years to pay. She got the best end of the deal (women almost always do.)”

    so I am wondering, what happened to the trust fund, your attorney a trustee, did with all the funds to pay back all of those who asked for refunds? cuz I sure didn’t get a check for $740 from that trust fund. anyone else get a refund?

    i truly wish you well in the sale of your colonies. i just want my money back that I have been asking you now for over a year. where’s my refund from your trustee? the money I paid you and you put in your pocket. ALL OF IT. you don’t write, call or answer emails, except reply and whine here.

  8. #288
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    Long Creek is kaput, done, over. In a previous post you encouraged people to not buy colonies from me. So they haven't. Its a little late to change your mind now. Ex-wife took all funds in settlement plus a lot more over the next three years. .... Whatever funds received will be divided between all. After all assets are liquidated, the corporation will be dissolved. Final chapter close book.
    Last edited by dragonfly; 08-25-2011 at 08:51 AM. Reason: personal attack

  9. #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemaster01 View Post
    Long Creek is kaput, done, over. In a previous post you encouraged people to not buy colonies from me. So they haven't. Its a little late to change your mind now. Ex-wife took all funds in settlement plus a lot more over the next three years. .... Whatever funds received will be divided between all. After all assets are liquidated, the corporation will be dissolved. Final chapter close book.
    More drama.
    i don’t control your business. you control your business. you have stiffed beekeepers all across the united states for bees and money. plain and simple. none of us will ever see anything from a ‘fund’…..or a bee…there are no assets, there are no funds, mmmm, cuz according to you, your ex-wife took it all. I don’t know what planet you are on. I don’t stiff my customers and then insult them because they ask for their money.

  10. #290
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    Bummer - the Russian queen I got turned out to be a drone layer, and solely from our own rookie inexperience, we did not figure it out in time - now our hive has dwindled to very few bees (mostly drones!) and it is too late/too few workers to try to requeen. Well, our first year keeping bees has definitely taught us a lot of valuable lessons, and we hope to have a better go of it next spring.

  11. #291
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    I do want to clarify for my post above - Mr. Winters does have a queen replacement policy, and has since indicated to me that he would have replaced the queen if my uncle and I would have figured it out in time and notified him.

  12. #292
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    I guess they should have been sent by certified mail since there will be no acknowledgement of money received...Just means smaller amount for everyone since that is obviously what they want. I've got a good idea - cancel payment on checks sent and resend them certified mail-you have 7 days to cash them.
    Last edited by beemaster01; 09-12-2011 at 11:19 PM. Reason: Original post stupid

  13. #293
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    I paid for two packages this spring and have received nothing. I want my money back. Can I get my money back? What does one have to do to get their money back? This does not seem fair. I sent money for bees and no bees were sent to me. Just wondering when I am going to get my money back. If I get my money back, I will post to this forum. I promise. Can I get my money back now?

  14. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemaster01 View Post
    Fairness of the forum is in doubt when those who posted the most comments will not acknowledge receiving a payment from me. Just wondering...........
    Did I miss something here? must have, and I must have missed an email notification from you when you are sending me my refund that I have requested since june 2010??? Or maybe my attorney had a brain fart and didn’t tell me??? Fairness of the forum? NO REFUND, NO MONEY, NO PAYMENT, ZERO, ZIP, NADA and I have posted plenty in this forum. Like everyone else here, just want my money back, all $740 of it. when can I get it david? STILL WONDERING….

  15. #295
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    Please send my money in the normal mail and I will post to the forum that I received a refund.

  16. #296
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    A beek in Utah ordered two packages from LCA in May and never rec'd bees and could not get a refund. He went to the news guy that goes after deadbeats. The person at LCA responded to him saying they never talk with third parties. The news guy advised the beek to go to the Utah Commerce Dept and file a complaint. It is against the law to take payment for a shipment that is not made within 30 days and subjects you to a $1500 fine. LCA refunded the $266 to the beek and sent a letter about the "gestapo" state investigator.

    It was pretty funny.

    I would contact your state commerce dept to see if they can do something for you.

  17. #297
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    Any company that produces live plant or animals can not comply with Utah law that mandates shipment within 30 days of when the order is placed. I paid the balance so I would have the legal right to inform all queen and package producers of the agriculture unfriendly Utah statues. Thanks to posters here and on the web site of the TV station in Utah this valuable information can be passed on to all bee companies.

    I find it very interesting that the payment hasn't been posted on the TV station website. Could it be biased as this forum is? No, it couldn't be as everything you read on the internet is fair and balanced. Ha, what a joke.

  18. #298
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    Default Re: Dealings with Long Creek Apiaries

    You didn't make a payment, you refunded the man's money after holding onto it for over three months.

    The payment is listed on the website. Read the article again, or have someone read it to you.

    I am delighted Utah has a statue to protect consumers from bad business practices of deadbeat companies. I hope other states do as well.

    http://connect2utah.com/get-gephardt...?nxd_id=164467

  19. #299
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    Default Re: Dealings with Long Creek Apiaries

    The original article hasn't been changed. For your 411, the refund was in two payments. I had made a partial payment before being contacted. Also, if all states laws were the same as Utah's, then there would be no bees available as no bee company takes orders and ships within 30 days as it is physically impossible. Maybe bee companies shouldn't take orders from states that have statues like Utah's.

    http://connect2utah.com/get-gephardt...?nxd_id=161147
    Last edited by Barry; 09-21-2011 at 10:15 PM. Reason: quoting

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    Quote Originally Posted by beemaster01 View Post
    Any company that produces live plant or animals can not comply with Utah law that mandates shipment within 30 days of when the order is placed.
    Incorrect. The law states you must SHIP the product within 30 days (not that it is to be received) after PAYMENT is taken - NOT the order being placed.

    Your argument is invalid as it is entirely possible to take orders in advance and take payment only when the product is ready to be shipped.
    Jim Andersen
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