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  1. #1
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    Default Small Set for Almonds

    What are the odds of being able to find a grower
    that would take say 100 colonies??

    Do you need a broker for small sets??

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    There are growers out there that need that number of colonies (or fewer), but finding them, and contacting them, unless you know someone out there, may be kind of difficult, especially from a long distance away (such as ND).

    A broker would make it much simpler. Many brokers will also do other things (for a price, of course): provide a holding yard, unload trucks, move bees into & out of orchards, collect money from growers, etc. Depends on each individual situation.
    Gregg Stewart

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    Your best bet with a hundred hives is to hook up with a commercial beek in your area that has a contract in place and supplement his hives. This also will afford you the opportunity to see how the system works and also how to prepare, inspect, strengthen and manipulate your hives so that they go and return strong. I have seen guys really take a hit when they sent weak or hives with no stores in them to Calf. not get their hives accepted and get them returned as deadouts or close to it..so they don't get paid and also are footing the shipment bill.

    Best bet again is link up with someone that you can piggy back off of. Once you are up to about a semi load (435) you can start looking for your own contracts or if you are hauling yourself maybe half that to a small grower.

    Good luck.
    Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. John Wayne

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    Thanks for the input guys.

    I have no intention (or desire) any longer to grow.
    Max size I am shooting for is 200.

    I intend to split Nucs off of them post pollination.

    I have family in Davis for a place to stay and nurse
    the bees along.

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    If thats the case you may be better off visiting family and taking out an add in the local COOP or something. Don't commit to more bees then you can provide. In the fall fed, fed, fed or they won't be the min frame strength. If your bees go into almonds strong they will split out really nice and strong after almonds. Being close to them would be a plus.

    Lastly...remember if you are working your bees out there...its a business expense.
    Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. John Wayne

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    Default lots or risks

    shipping your bees with a commercial operation. even good operations can have a break down enroute and cook the bees in Nevada in fall or they winter somewhere before almonds and you get a nice case of beetles or other nasties.

    i know of several smaller operations who make out great sending their bees with a commercial operation for almonds and others who lost everything.

    you must also be ready to split them out in april when they return all amped up.

    i think thats the key is not send anything you can't live without next spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Dingler View Post
    i know of several smaller operations who make out great sending their bees with a commercial operation for almonds and others who lost everything.
    I will be the only one trucking my bees. The almonds are
    secondary to build up and Nucs. A nice secondary mind
    you........

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    SD, the problem is, you will spend much more money and have more trouble doing it your self in small ( 200 ) quantities. You need someone you can trust to work with you in Cal, otherwise it's not worth it. Hard to believe, isn't it? Bees get trucked all the time without disasters. You want to be on a full semi to keep costs down.

    Almond growers won't be making commitments yet, and when they do they will be tightly focused on price.

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    Thanks Tom and all......

    I am either going to truck them to Texas, or California.

    Placing them in the almonds is secondary. Sounds weird
    I know. But I am focused on build up and splits. I thought
    if I could find a small grower where I could place 100 that
    would be great......

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    Default Texas or Calif.

    For build up and increase, go to Texas.

    For cash flow go to Calif.

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    While bees do build up in Ca....my best bees by far are the ones that wouldnt make grade and stayed in Fl! With the 4 day haul, chilled brood on way out and hot on the way back rain and cool weather if you want to build bees....go to Florida or Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundance View Post
    I will be the only one trucking my bees. The almonds are
    secondary to build up and Nucs. A nice secondary mind
    you........
    Davis CA is in my back yard. IF, as you say almonds are secondaey head to Texas.

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