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  1. #1
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    Default Swarm practice

    This afternoon at 3 PM a huge number of bees came out of the hive on an overcast day with predictions of thunderstorms. Most of them formed a beard from the entrance to the telescoping cover. This hive has 2 brood cambers and 1 shallow. Another huge number were flying around overhead. I put a hive with some drawn comb nearby hoping they settle there, but at 4 PM they all went back into their own hive. The air temperature was about 67 degrees.

    Do you think this is a dress rehearsal for a soon to be swarm?
    I went to the health food store to buy some Lemon Grass oil and they sold me Lemon Balm saying this is the same thing. Would you agree?

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    This probaly was a happy flight. Young bees taking an orientation flight.
    Don't think you are on the right road simply because it is a well worn pathway.

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    lemon balm is not the same thing.. it is a plant member of the mint family. leaves. stems that are squarish.. lemon grass oil is just that oil from lemon grass.. different chemical makeup.get the lemon grass oil that will work better. i dont think the health food store people understand what you need it for or really know why... it might smell the same and has the same effect for aroma therapy. but not for.. bee bait lol..
    Smart man knows that the road is a one way street..
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    I don't think this was a happy flight!! I watch that happen every day where many of them come out and circle around then go back in. This was a mega number of bees.

    Where would I get some lemon grass oil?

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    if you need it fast.. find a retailer that sells now foods generally they also have now oils.. that is what i geta good quality. im not sure what zip in erie your in but i picked the middle one then did a find in 70 miles store finder. you can call them and see if anyone has it. if you dont mind waiting. i know there are people that sell it on ebay.. i do not know how good the oil is.. but it must be ok as i rarely see any complaints..


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    Wise man looks both ways anyhow.......

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    That happened to me and it turns out the queen could not fly. The bees finally got her out, but she was on the ground. I picked her up and split the hive. that way, they think they have already swarmed. It worked.
    "The greatest threat is our own staggering ignorance and cavalier treatment of the natural world to which we belong."

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    Beekeeperlady..........thanks for the addresses. I'm not sure how the "erie" got in there. I'm really north of buffalo. I called and the closest one and they have LGO!!! I'm on my way.

    Parke County Queen............I hope that is just what happens here. I'll be back from the store shortly and checking on the girls...

    Thanks to both of you............Ed

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    That happened to me and it turns out the queen could not fly. The bees finally got her out, but she was on the ground. I picked her up and split the hive. that way, they think they have already swarmed. It worked.
    "The greatest threat is our own staggering ignorance and cavalier treatment of the natural world to which we belong."

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    Well, yesterday I did notice a softball size mass of bees under the landing board. Now I wonder if the queen was in that mass? I didn't think to look. I did see them all crawl back into the hive so I didn't swarm yesterday.

    I just came in from opening up the hive and found the shallow super filled and capped. I put a new shallow of foundation on top of the 2 broods and then a bee "trap or excluder" then the filled shallow. The nights have been cool here so they will probably evacuate in one day. I'll spin out the honey and place that shallow back on the hive. That should give them room for now. Lifting the hive from the back says they have plenty more honey stored in the broods.

    If they do swarm I'll be ready. Thanks everyone........Ed

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    Well I just got in from successfully capturing a swarm. Luckily they landed in a lilac bush in my neighbors yard. Maybe they do practice!! Thanks to all again.

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