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    Default Renting Bee's

    I am new to bee keeping and I am finding to be very relaxing and enjoyable to me. Question I have is I drive by huge apple orchards daily, I see them starting to bloom and I see an opportunity place hives and make some extra money. This would be a 2010 thing but I am wondering how much the growers pay to have hives brought into their fields for pollination services.

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    For me it depends on how many hives they take and what they are pollinating. For cherries, blueberries and most of the apples its between 45-50 per hive. I have a few apple orchards that don't spray so I leave the hives there all summer and charge 25 per hive just to justify taking them north earlier than I'd like to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chevydmax04 View Post
    This would be a 2010 thing but I am wondering how much the growers pay to have hives brought into their fields for pollination services.
    Knock in the door and ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreiRN View Post
    Knock in the door and ask.
    I would knock ON the door...if you knock it IN you might get shot.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    Cool

    Get what ever you can. I get from some $85 per hive and others I get all the fruit I want. My wife likes the fruit and I like the money.

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    do you charge per week?

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    That was going to be my next question, is that per week, month or the duration of the bloom for that particular crop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevydmax04 View Post
    That was going to be my next question, is that per week, month or the duration of the bloom for that particular crop.
    My fees are for the duration of the bloom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Honey Householder View Post
    Get what ever you can. I get from some $85 per hive and others I get all the fruit I want. My wife likes the fruit and I like the money.
    what do you pollinate ron? my guys would not pay if i went that high. $48 is what i get in the berries
    Last edited by swarm_trapper; 05-20-2009 at 03:46 PM.

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    i just got my checks for $60 on apples for under 32 hives. price breaks to $50 for more then 32 hives.

    there is always some bottom feeder out there willing to rent for nothing. quality bees with 6 or more frames of bees rent for more then a package with hardly any brood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Dingler View Post
    i just got my checks for $60 on apples for under 32 hives. price breaks to $50 for more then 32 hives.

    there is always some bottom feeder out there willing to rent for nothing. quality bees with 6 or more frames of bees rent for more then a package with hardly any brood.
    I hope thats not a referance to me. I have never met a "bottem feeder" there is no competion for pollination. I can charge lower prices because I rent more than 5 hives at time.
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    I try to avoid using the term "renting bees".
    This implies that if the grower pays the "rent" they are intitled to do whatever they want with or around the hives.
    Like let their neighbor or brother in law who "knows something about bees" look around in hives for example.
    Or move them around with a tractor after you are gone.
    All of this is covered in a good pollination contract that specifies in bold that the hives are nor to be touched or disturbed in any way.
    The contract allows for hive inspection at the growers request, having the beekeeper opening and working in the hive at that time.
    I have exactly ONE hive more than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond question.

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    I use the term rent because that's what I do. If you RENT bees they fall under rental income and the money is not subject to self employment tax.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbest View Post
    I use the term rent because that's what I do. If you RENT bees they fall under rental income and the money is not subject to self employment tax.
    HA, good luck on that one.

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    Default Rental Income

    Yup, been tried before. IRS disagrees.

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    Um ok well, 2500 hives and have been filing that way for 42 years (well my father has been). It is a rental, not a service. The grower rents the bees for the duration of the bloom if it rains the whole time and the crops don't get pollinated I still get paid.
    Last edited by dbest; 05-22-2009 at 07:04 PM. Reason: I'm a bad speller
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    Default Denny

    I wish you the best, really...

    But beekeepers that have gone head to head with the IRS on this issue have been disappointed.

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    Big Grin Ask my CPA

    Maybe my CPA doesn't understand renting. I haven't paid self employment tax on the rentals.
    Sorry Tom

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    Default bee townhouses rent

    But wait I rent all my hives out to those little bees. I only make them pay rent twice a year. The only thing is they pay in HONEY. So do I have to pay self employment tax on the honey sales too.

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    Default Ron

    Quit messin around! This is serious business for those of us who have TOO MUCH INCOME!

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