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    Default Cutout/tying comb

    thought i'd post this here.

    last week, ramona and i did a fairly easy cutout:


    i didn't have time to put together "swarm ketching frames" (as dee lusby uses...1/2 width frames with horizontal wires...comb is sandwiched between 2 1/2 frames and they are stapled together), so i quickly put together the style that i saw jim tew use in a video:


    more detailed pics:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/Dean.Ramona/TewFrame#

    deknow

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    That is the best idea I have seen for tieing comb without useing the "catch" frames GOOD JOB
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    yeah, i like it too...i'll have to look up the data on the video so i can credit it properly. the real key is the rubber band...this avoids having to tie a knot and keep the string taut.

    dee's "swarm ketching frames" are better for piecing together several smaller combs on one frame (she does cutouts from flowerpot style traps, so lots of small combs), but if you are working with larger single combs (this colony had setup shop in an old, walled over stove vent pipe section...9 round combs perpendicular to the pipe), this is pretty fast.

    one could modify it by putting hooks on the underside of the topbar closer to the center widthwise so that it would hold the comb more tightly, but the real beauty of this is the simplicity...if you have string, nails, rubber bands, and frames, you are all set...and once the bees build out the comb, you only have some small nails that do not interfere with the frame spacing.

    btw, more pics of the cutout at:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/Dean.Ramona/Cutoutdevins#
    ...i'll shoot some more pics of the colony now (perhaps today), with some kind of comb size gauge...the cells and the bees were quite small.

    deknow

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    also, these were frames for foundationless, so they also had popsicle stick comb guides. 3 days after the cutout, they had the comb mostly attached via the combguides (and in the center of the frames).

    don't know if the guides help, hurt, or are benign...i wouldn't have bothered with them if i were building them specifically for tying up comb.

    deknow

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    the real key is the rubber band...this avoids having to tie a knot and keep the string taut.
    Yes I saw the rubberband and the PC sticks.

    ...i'll have to look up the data on the video so i can credit it properly
    I wont ell if you dont I dont have orginal ideas but like to try to burn good ones into the hard head drive.
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    http://www.beesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228503

    You can see progress the cutout is making, and more.

    deknow

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