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  1. #41
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    Ya chef,
    A small hand held compressor is all you would need.run the cord through your back window and plug it in to your cigarette lighter.

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    If you have a way to put fittings on your 55 gallon drum (I use the blue food-grade HDPE drums which are easy to fit with piping), set it up so that you have the output on one side of the top of the drum, and on the other opening at the top of the drum a vent with 90 degree elbow going to a length of pipe to extend past the top of the drum when placed on its side. Then all you have to do is fill it after you place it on its side (chock it so it doesn't roll) and then you should be able to pump without any problem.

    Use this method with all types of solutions here on the farm.



    MM

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    Default Syrup pumping

    Well Chef, you have a lot of suggestions.
    Now you will have to use our sound knowledge and fine tune it to your needs.
    BTW: You might consider adding medication to the syrup.
    Good Luck,
    Ernie
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    hopefully it is a warm tent!

    Since there is no side line section and since I am tired of filling feeders by hand, I thought I would post the question here since, at some point, commerical beekeepers where once hobbyists and sideliners. Couple that with all the experiance you all have, I thought it might be a good place to post the question.

    I sincerely apologize if this is the wrong place to post such question and would feel free to have the moderator move it if needed.

    Sorry to inconvience Keith or anyone else who might feel this way.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    I do have one. Not sure if it will work with 2:1. Working with two other beekeepers who have posted info on this to help me out. I just want to make sure it will pump cold 2:1. To be honest with you Keith, my back is killing me from hauling buckets around and instead of just buying one and trying it and it not working, they cost a good amount so some research I needed to do and get a better understanding of how they work and what I should look for.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Isaac View Post
    what I should look for.
    I put my two cents in on that subject Chef, A round tank that can be pressurized.

    Put your sugar in put your water in use the air to mix, then put the top on to pressurize and pump.


    Chef,
    "action" produces a out come......

    non action produces four thousand post's.
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    Sheri, are you requiring Keith to read every thread? Come on, cut him a little slack! Can't you see he getting a little edgy by be compelled to have to read the thread.
    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Isaac View Post
    I just do not know what type of pump to buy. Doesnt need to pump honey but just sugar syrup.

    Any affordable recomendations?
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    wont work for what I am looking to do.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    I tested the pump out more today. It will pump 1:1 but will not pump straight liquid sucrose. I can fill 4- 1 gallon feeders in 1 min 30 seconds.

    I might consider getting a unit from mann lake so I can push 2:1 and mix it in the tank.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    Wink search?


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    Gotta start somewhere.learn from the mistakes.

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    No pain ... NO gain...

    Some just want the magic diet pill to fix all.

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    Used to say...Don't talk about it too much, you'll never get it done!

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    Keth?
    Is it ok to add air to a 275gal tote can the tote take the pressure and would a 12v compressor keep up with feeding a lot of hives how much pressure would you need with a 75 foot hose?
    eaglesbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesbee View Post
    Keth?
    Is it ok to add air to a 275gal tote can the tote take the pressure and would a 12v compressor keep up with feeding a lot of hives how much pressure would you need with a 75 foot hose?
    Eaglesbee, your tank needs to be round with NO flat sides, if your tank is full it doesn't take much air to pump.

    When I'm feeding 4 gallon feeders it takes twenty seconds to fill or 5 seconds a gallon. Some times you have to back off the air because it become messee to fill.

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    Chef, another idea, if you're using air is to just use a portable 10 gal air tank. Fill it up to 100psi in the shop and and load it on the truck. You don't even need to carry a compressor that way. 10gal at 100psi should be able to generate enough head-pressure in a 55gal drum (20 psi once all the syrup is out) to do what you need quite easily. (Going with what I know: you generally push beer out a tap-handle between 7-20psi depending on the length of the run and the height of the tap-handle in relation to the keg. (add about 5psi for every 10 feet of rise))

    Or, you could just use C02 to push, but then the refill isn't free. Although 1 C02 tank would probably push 10 drums of syrup.

    . . . so many options.

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    I just use a water pump with a 5 hp motor. It's not overkill with cold syrup. I kinda am intrigued with Keith's system. I suppose you use hot water to mix you sugar. How much air does it take to mix your tanK? Does the air come from the brakes on the truck or a shop compressor? It seems relatively simple. One big advantage is that it would be quiet. Chef if you go for a pump, splurge and get a Honda motor, not a Briggs and Stratton. The Honda motor is so much more quiet, well worth the extra dollars in my opinion.

    Jean-Marc

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    I second the Honda engine,
    they are probably the best built on the market,
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Jarrett View Post
    Eaglesbee, your tank needs to be round with NO flat sides, if your tank is full it doesn't take much air to pump.

    When I'm feeding 4 gallon feeders it takes twenty seconds to fill or 5 seconds a gallon. Some times you have to back off the air because it become messee to fill.
    Keep this up and I will contact the mods. Your exceeding your one sentance max response.
    Chuck Norris has a grizzly bear carpet in his room. The bear isn't dead it is just afraid to move.

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