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    Default Avant

    http://www.versatileequipment.co.uk/...tachments.aspx

    Anybody use one of these? Sounds like it could do all the work of a swinger plus some 200 attachment options. Seems like an option to get all the utility of a decent farm tractor/construction site material handler plus an excellent bee mover.
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    Friend has one in Utah, check the load capability. His could only pick up one barrel at a time or one heavy pallet. Not designed to load trucks.

    Larry

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    http://www.avanttecno.com/web/engtyoll/Forkliftm.htm

    The mast option puts its lift capacity at about 1500 kilos (3,306.9 LBS) and is very much designed for loading trucks. There are many different models. My 76 Swinger Kubota diesel conversion can pick up about 1600 LBS and I believe some of the newer versions can pick up around 3000 LBS also. Seems very comparable; except maybe the price tag and one can plow and seed the pasture.

    http://orsba.proboards27.com/index.c...ad=1721&page=1

    There are 2 pics of the Avant in action in this thread.
    Last edited by JBJ; 03-07-2009 at 02:42 PM.
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    Does it have side shift? That is a big advantage when loading trucks.
    Also, I believe the Hummerbee also has attachments, not sure how big of a selection.
    Where would one get these things? I come up with a dealer in Mexico but no where else in the Northern Hemisphere.
    Sheri

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    Not sure about the side shift, but a would be surprised if they overlooked that for the actual mast as opposed to the telescoping pallet forks. I made an inquiry about the side shift and dealers for the USA. Here is another brochure for the 600 series: http://www.avanttecno.com/web/engsal...nglantiwww.pdf

    I haven't found one for the 700 yet. Seems like an amazing machine.
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    Hey LSP, what unit did your friend have and did he have the mast or the pallet forks on the boom?
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    Default Why

    I've got one of those repower units too, one of the best tool investments I ever made...With factory support, parts availability, resale-ability, compatibility with outfit, what is the attraction? Is it really cheap?

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    I suspect they come with a hefty price tag. I am not in the market at the moment, but I have a friend who is. I think the appeal is that it can do all the work of a farm tractor and then some, with double duty as a bee loader. I just watched the videos from their site. Looks pretty versatile:

    General buckets
    Light material buckets
    High tip buckets
    4 in 1 bucket
    Skip bucket
    Grapple bucket
    Dozer blade
    HD Dozer blade
    Pallet fork
    Forklift mast
    Winch
    Jib crane
    Log grab
    Digging

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    Backhoe 205
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    Building

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    Rotary broom for snow removal
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    no mast, small unit.
    Have to level load as you lift like some older bobcats.

    I have found the swinger/hummerbee the best for our application , moving bee hives.

    What I also find is that it is a great tool to take out roots of trees, move palm trees, remove fence posts, and more. Add that with no attachments just the forks.

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    Homey just makes his own log splitter, post driver, etc, using aux hyd power and good old DOMESTIC machine.

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    I like that idea! Where can I purchase a Homey that does all that?



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    Default Hi John

    Machines are fun to look at! When I go to Finland I see those machines being used for all kinds of things in the city and they are well engineered bet on it. But $$$??? is a big deal and A & O is hard to beat for service & parts, a MAJOR factoid.

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    I hear ya. When you look at the cost of a new swinger and a farm tractor.... well I guess the phrase is sticker shock, same for this machine. I suspect it would not be to bad for parts because it has a Kubota power plant, same as my 76 repowered swinger. If only the Swinger could plow and seed my 5 irrigated acre pasture...
    John B Jacob www.oldsolbees.com

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    Default Why not?

    Use the swinger
    I am currently building a brush fork ( prunings ) for my sw110. I have 51/2 acres oranges and use it for cultivating, weed control, etc. When I get bored with bee work.

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    How bout some pictures? Sounds like a very interesting project. I would love to get some cultivation implements going on the property.
    John B Jacob www.oldsolbees.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBJ View Post
    I hear ya. When you look at the cost of a new swinger and a farm tractor.... well I guess the phrase is sticker shock, same for this machine. I suspect it would not be to bad for parts because it has a Kubota power plant, same as my 76 repowered swinger. If only the Swinger could plow and seed my 5 irrigated acre pasture...
    If I were you I would call and ask about a 3pt adapter. If they don't already make one, Dean will build it.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    the avant looks like a nice small machine but watching these video's I see why the hummerbee is so popular
    http://www.hummerbeeforklift.com/hummerbeemovies.html

    does anyone know the price of a new hummerbee?
    Ted

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    Default Tool for the Job

    A loader has to be big and heavy enough to prevent it from tipping with the pay load raised. Safety is a number 1 consideration when buying tools.

    A dull knife is much more dangerous than a sharp one.

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    Hummerbee: 4860 lbs with liquid filled tires 42 HP, 12MPH
    Avant 745: 3784lbs standard tires (?), 49 HP, 15.5 MPH

    How much weight would liquid filled tires add? There is also a ballast kit with a tow hook option for the 700 series. I know, I know buy American. Has anybody out there managed to utilize a PTO setup to run cultivation implements. The brush hog is nice but other options would be better. I am surprised there is not more demand in the states for multi use machines.
    John B Jacob www.oldsolbees.com

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    JBJ, im sure you also dont like the idea of the aussie packages/queens here maybe the same would apply to the forklift from out of the States . By the way Dean at A&O Forklift offers some of the best customer service and has one of the best lifts on the market. One more thing is no matter what you are buying there is never one machine/truck /car etc that does all things good so I would bet that a machine that offers so much would not do any one thing as good as a forklift just for beekeeping.. Just my 2 cents. Kenny

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