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  1. #1
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    Default Connector for two baby frames

    This year I will give the set-up of Webster/Palmer with overwintering mating nucs a shot (1). I am totally sold on the idea, but do not like another frame size that is not compatible. So I did a prototype for a connector of two half frames. This way they can be transfered to and from the regular hives (jumbos).

    The critical part is the cut-off nails that are inserted into grove in the bottom bar, then the wood is aligned with the sidebar locking them together. The nails on the other side is to hold the wood in place.

    I would like your comment on them.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/MrJensLa...ctorPrototype#

    (1) http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...=220877&page=2
    Last edited by JensLarsen; 02-12-2009 at 02:57 PM. Reason: added link to Palmers post with images

  2. #2
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    Default I like the idea..

    Been thinking along the same lines as you. My frames are the ones used in Mann Lake's double mating nuc, medium depth in size..what size are yours?
    "I reject your reality, and substitute my own." Adam Savage

  3. #3
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    Default Frame size, close to Br Adam

    I make the frames by cutting down standard length langs. The bars are cut in the middle, removing 15 mm at the top and 50 mm at the bottom, new slits are cut and the frame is stapled with 32 mm. The height of the box is 297 mm (guess that is called jumbo in the us, modified dadant i Europe). It has same footprint as ten frame lang. Swienty has them "Swi-bo LS" (1). Dividing wall is homemade.

    These frames are close to what Br Adam used in his permanent mating yard (exept for using twelve frame boxes -> four colonies with 6 frames, close to Palmer's 8 frames baby deep in volume).

    Btw, I was thinking about the term "half" vs "baby". In Sweden we use half for the height, I think the french do the same for their dadant. "Baby" could then be used for frames cut the other way.

    (1) http://www.swienty.com/?pid=1&id=100033
    Last edited by JensLarsen; 02-13-2009 at 02:02 PM. Reason: btw...

  4. #4
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    I've done somewhat the same thing only numbering each so they alway's go back with the same other half. Need some better, longer nails that run through the 3 sections.

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    I never tried it, but I like this idea: http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/bifoldfr.html

  6. #6
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    Then you need a special size for the mating hive, no good. The width of my connector (50mm) is two beespace plus the thickness of the dividing wall.

  7. #7
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    I didn't pay enough attention to your first post, sorry! I live in tropical country (just a few frosts in the lowlands during winter), so mini mating hives wouldn't be an issue if one keeps them under a GOOD shade. Here, a nuc doesn't need to be heated to run year round, and a frame that was exactly half length of a langstroth hive would be my preference.

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    I made some "connectors" by simply ripping a board the width of the end bars and the "length" of the gap between the two mini frames, and stapling in place with a light-duty (ie not air powered) stapler.... so far I am happy

  9. #9
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    Default Modified Webster/Palmer feeder

    abeeco, that kind of makes mine look as overworked as Daves... I'll try that.

    I built the division wall and modified Webster/Palmer feeder:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/MrJensLa...tingNucFeeder#

    "Based on Kirk Webster and Mike Palmer movable baby nuc feeder. The top lid is removable so both chambers can be accessed. In a larger feeder (jumbo hive) one chamber can be used for liquid feed and the other for dry sugar."

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