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    Well my fellow beeks, I have decided to buy a new truck and need some advice and some ideas....
    With that being said, here is the rest of the story ...I am looking at ether a 550 club cab ford or an Int 4300 with a DT466 Eng??????
    I will be pulling a 32ft goose neck with a gvw of 26000 lb from Northern New York to South Carolina with 40 pallets of bees ( 18000 bees and equipment +/- )
    Now what I am looking for is all of those ( if I had it to do over again I would have done....) ? to the flat bed
    tool box,tie downs, rope hooks ,a ramp , lights .... you get the idea
    this is going to be a one time purchase

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    DT466 without a doubt...I have a one ton 350 and a dt466 4400. The bigger truck actually turns better and gets better mileage loaded.......

    My FORD(fix or repair daily) is my 4x4 option, other then that I like the International much better
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    Agree, those 466' are tough as nails! I wouldn't put it on the same playing field with a Ford.
    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." Winston Churchill

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    if you go with a flat bed you can avoid CDL, but if you are pulling a trailer that long with 18k on it, you will have to be a CDL driver. FYI

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    If it doesn't have air brakes. Air and a trailer moves up to Class A.
    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." Winston Churchill

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    If there is more then 9k on the trailer...it's CDL

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    I have a CDL my question is, Ford or INT , and what fetchers would you want on your flat bed that would make life easer

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    International.....Whats a fetcher?

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    If the trailer has a GVW of 10,000lbs you are going to be required to have a class A cdl. You can fit 32 pallets on a 24 foot flatbed, unless you go to a 10 wheeler . If you are just asking for opinions here's mine. Get a F-550 v-10 with a club cab , stick a 12ft bed on it and just hire a semi to move the bees. There is so much less stress involved that it more than makes up for the cost of the shipping.

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    The EPA has done a fine job of killing the fuel mileage on the smaller diesel trucks & pick ups.
    My son has a 6.0 Ford [edit by mod]
    He tells me the 6.4 are not as lot better as the get no mileage and seem to be in the shop more than on the road working.
    A few months back I heard that it was next to a 6 month wait for a V-10 in a 350 or 450 in a cab/chassis due to the diesel prices.
    From what I know I would check out International/Navistar, the company that is.
    I do not believe they are in much better shape $$$$$ wise than 2 of the Detroit 3 that are broke
    Last edited by Barry; 01-04-2009 at 01:54 PM. Reason: profanity

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    you gonna get in trouble for cussin'....

    My diesel mech says the same about the newer 6.0's...lots of problems. I would look for an older 7.3power stroke if your were gonna buy one.
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    I will second Trevors comment. Let the semis haul the big load, then scatter & work in a comfortable 1 ton you can pull your loader with.

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    This is my truck and I love it. 12-14 mpg when empty and with the big trailer and bees totaling 54,000 pounds I got 9 mpg. Cummins reccomends a rebuild at a million miles.

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    PS. If you look under the "almond pollination" thread we talked alot about trucks at the end.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbest View Post
    This is my truck and I love it. 12-14 mpg when empty and with the big trailer and bees totaling 54,000 pounds I got 9 mpg. Cummins reccomends a rebuild at a million miles.

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    PS. If you look under the "almond pollination" thread we talked alot about trucks at the end.
    Is that a Fl-70

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    FL-80, 18' bed, 9 speed, 270hp 8.3L cummins, 33,000 GVW even though the law only allows 30,000.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbest View Post
    FL-80, 18' bed, 9 speed, 270hp 8.3L cummins, 33,000 GVW even though the law only allows 30,000.
    What year is it ? Have you had any problems? Im trying to decide whether to go with Cummins or International.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Mansell View Post
    What year is it ? Have you had any problems? Im trying to decide whether to go with Cummins or International.

    2002, I haven't had any major problems. Heater valve, and I broke the air hose to my seat the other day. That was really annoying.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    blows a Ford outta the water.....nice truck

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    7,8,9,10,12 per gallon,the way keepers are stumbling over one another once again for the almonds is crazy.fill her up.We run a few bobtails,but they still dont amount to a 550 4wd for manuverability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rate of speed View Post
    7,8,9,10,12 per gallon,the way keepers are stumbling over one another once again for the almonds is crazy.fill her up.We run a few bobtails,but they still dont amount to a 550 4wd for manuverability.
    you must be joking.....A 550 takes about an acre to turn. A Int DT466 is super tight.....steeper wheelcut

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