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  1. #1
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    Default No Aussie Bees For 09?

    Is it true they have stopped the imports of aussie bees due to a new pest they found? That should have an impact on available bees for almonds if its true.
    Also hearing horror stories of large amounts of bees crashing already.
    Anybody got any facts?

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    Default No Aussies

    Now that would make a merry Christmas!

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    Default Good ?

    Have seen both suppliers advertising Aussie packages in December issue of ABJ.

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    what is the new pest?

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    Default Replay

    Of course last year when they showed the correlation with IAPV and Aussies there was a brief time when it appeared they may be excluded. Could be a rehash of old stuff.

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    YES GUYS IT IS TRUE. I am back fresh from the California Almond baord meeting with beekeepers. And the news is AS OF RIGHT NOW NO AU BEES WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE STATES. This is because they found either n. cerena Virus or one of the other n. virus diseases. They are working hard to try to figure out what to do. Also Varoa was found. As well as a Apis cerana was found they think. They may be allowed on a quarenteen basis or on a special circumstance.


    This was the news from From the top state bee people.


    Angi
    I will make a special post on the Ca Almond board meeting
    Last edited by Angi_H; 12-10-2008 at 11:21 PM.
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    Last I heard:

    http://home.ezezine.com/1636/1636-20...3.archive.html
    The Asian bee can carry some really nasty stuff we dont have here yet ,so a ban would be sensible. But money talks..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angi_H View Post
    As well as a Apis cerana was found they think.
    Since we already have both nosemas, could the Apis cerana be the problem? It is the host of Tropilaelaps, and worse than varroa, I've been told. They did find one incidence of
    A. cerana last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Since we already have both nosemas, could the Apis cerana be the problem? It is the host of Tropilaelaps, and worse than varroa, I've been told. They did find one incidence of
    A. cerana last year.
    Tropilaelaps original host is Apis Dorsata, the giant honey bee in Asia and Indonesia. They have jumped to both Apis melifera and Apis cerana. They breed at about 25 times the rate of varroa, so they would indeed represent a significant threat to our industry. Since Australia is so close to Indonesia, they will probably be "ground zero" for the spread of Tropilaelaps. If there is any indication that they are starting to spread to Australia, it would certainly be prudent to nip it in the bud now.
    "The UNKNOWN, huh? That would be SNORBERT ZANGOX over in Waycross."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Weitzel View Post
    it would certainly be prudent to nip it in the bud now.
    And that's what the growers are concerned about, "buds" not "bees".

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    VERY,VERY well said,praise the nut.

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    Well as the one guy was going to say what they thought it was he was about to say it when the other apiarist guy sitting just down from me in the front row said dont say it yet. As it is not yet confirmed. So he went with a few of the other things that they knew they had found near Carnes Au. Which is A. Cernia and a few other things. BUt as of right now it is a no go but they had said they might lean toward a temporary permit to allow them with a quarenteen process. We will know more in the next few weeks as they work through things and make sure what they found and what they want to do and how will it effect pollination for the coming bloom.

    Angi
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    I was wondering if anyone knows if Canada is not allowing Australian packages in as well. If so, that would probably put a lot of pressure on opening the border to US packages.

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    Default Are Aussies locked out?

    I have sent emails to two US/Australian packages suppliers and they sound very sure that they can fill a package order for almonds. Like I said in the other post. I never asked about a quarantine, just if they could supply bees. No hesitations, no excuses, just a straight foward yes!
    Anyone else hear rock solid info of the Aussies being banned/locked out this year?

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    Default RE Canada , Matt Beekman

    Why we are so slow and backwards up here in the north that all the bad stuff could be here already...... and the gov't boys wouldn't know it.,.......... till its too late
    Could all this be weather related, see --- http://text.www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/...l?mb-16&unit=m ,
    for my current conditions , -36 celcuis with the windchill

    Canadian Honey council meeting this month in Niagra Falls.... Councils accomplishments for the last 20 years could be counted on one hand . Can't see them banning Aussie pkg's. Bees are in short supply, even a movement underway to look for new sources of package bees.
    Seems that some of these pro self suffient Canadian beekeepers suffered some higher than normal losses in the past and found out u can't have both, a honey crop and making up ur losses.
    That US/Canadian border was closed 23 YEARS AGO cause some little gov't bureocat was in fear ( African bees ) and needed to cover his large But .This DECIMANTED the California producers and produced alot of hard feelings on both sides of the border towards Canadian GOV'T officals

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    Of corse the Au packeage business guys are going to tell you yes they can fill them. They will tell you yes till they get the final word in 2 or 3 weeks maybe a bit longer till they figure out what the heck is going on. What I dont understand is why in the heck would the US knowenly allow them to come in even under a special permit knowing what they are carrying that is just asking for new troubles on top of other troubles we already have. I would say keep them out at lease for this year till they are absoulutly sure they are not horboring anything that could desimate out business here. I have nothing against Au. I actually love au and would want to move and live there in the future.

    Angi
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    I figure they are considering allowing it because there is a lot of money involved on both sides. Word is the USDA will be making a ruling on allowing the imports this Tuesday. Lets hope the big shots at the USDA care about the health of our American bees!

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    Its all a money and power thing.If the growers feel there is a shortage of bees you can bet a dollar to a doenut the packages will be in the united states.Once again no one can answer any question till the problem arises,and mother nature is finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loggermike View Post
    Last I heard:

    http://home.ezezine.com/1636/1636-20...3.archive.html
    The Asian bee can carry some really nasty stuff we dont have here yet ,so a ban would be sensible. But money talks..........
    http://home.ezezine.com/1636/1636-20...6.archive.html

    http://listserv.albany.edu:8080/cgi-...e-l&T=0&P=1016


    RDY-B
    Last edited by RDY-B; 12-15-2008 at 07:56 PM.

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    I've gotten alot , maybe 1200 queens from there in the last 3 years, no better ,no worse than any others.
    The email I got from B Weaver, said that as of last friday that Apis,and the Usda were considering closing the border soon, because of the Apis Cerana, found near Cairns, and the Ausie government not answering questions as to how they are handling the eradication effort, and seemed to be moved by anti import folks to end allowing shipment here.
    Where there are fruits and nuts there are beekeepers!!!

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