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  1. #1
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    Default Propolis Traps and Trapping

    When is the best time of year to put on propolis traps?

    I have the West (I think) SHB traps which sit on the bottom board. I thought I could take off the grill and use it for a propolis trap on top of the hive. It would need to be supported, otherwise it sits on the top bars and doesn't reach fully to the edges of the hive.

    Anyone tried this or know about propolis trapping?
    WayaCoyote

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    I trapped propolis using the flexible black plastic traps that you freeze and a weird insert that uses blue plastic that lets in light. The insert top one collected a very thin layer of propolis but I was glad I did not pay for it - I'd never get enough to make money off that little. The black plastic ones collected a lot of propolis. You freeze them and then the propolis is easier to remove. It did not (in my experience) "snap right off". I took the hive tool and scraped it off.

    Oh, and don't let your daughter take a frozen trap out of the freezer and put it on the deck.

    Oh, and if you do let your daughter lay it on the deck, keep the cat from laying on the nice, sun warmed propolis trap.
    http://www.voiceofthehive.com - Tales of Beekeeping and Honeybees

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    Anyone know where to get the ones in this video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwEAOSA6m_I

    I like how they are way more flexible than the stiff black ones you get in the U.S. I have two of the type xC0000005 is talking about but want to order a whole lot more. I'd rather get the more flexible type you can roll and beat against the wall of a deep freezer.
    Richard
    Carriage House Farm, North Bend, Ohio

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    I think you could almost use something like window screen material. Try it out and let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandal View Post
    Anyone know where to get the ones in this video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwEAOSA6m_I

    I like how they are way more flexible than the stiff black ones you get in the U.S. I have two of the type xC0000005 is talking about but want to order a whole lot more. I'd rather get the more flexible type you can roll and beat against the wall of a deep freezer.
    Hey Richard, I went to your site to see any further propolis picture updates but didn't see any. How long did it take to fill up one of those hard plastic propolis traps? Do you have pics? Did you locate the flexibl ones like in the video?

    thanks,
    Musashi

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    Yeah, that was a photo project that cut because of time and forgetting to take about five pictures to show how they filled up the screen.

    From my experience with putting them on three hives (which is not much experience) and talking with others I have come to the conclusion that:

    A) All Colonies fill the screens differently (it is not race specific, though I suppose it could be a trait).

    B) Colonies that produce enough to fill the screen also produce honey.

    C) Most colonies will never fill the screen completely (I think this may be their own need to maintain a flow of air if possible in through the colony... this is merely an opinion based on limited experience).

    D) When placed on my prolific colony (prolific in terms of propolis collection and use) raising the lid on both sides so it is not making contact using shims along the front and rear edges accelerated the trapping by a couple days.

    F) Even after a couple days in sub freezing temperatures one two of my hives have resealed themselves, showing they are capable of reworking and using the stuff even when it is cold and there is no sap flow.

    E) The three trappings I did collected enough propolis to fill an 8oz jam jar.

    I do not have a small scale so I have been unable to measure the actual weight.

    Because I am dealing with limited post harvest space, I simply flex my screens, once frozen, in a white or clear garbage bag and then place back in freezer. After a couple hours I shake the bag and pour its contents into a jar.

    I am going to try the a synthetic screen door material next year, but It think the fine diameter of the weave threads are going to prevent the propolis from simply rolling off once its frozen. As soon as you use your hive tool on it, you are decreasing any profit you get from the stuff. You want to be able to do it fast and the same way each time. THus a thicker material that they plug (rather than wrapping around like on a thin mesh would be better, that way you can roll it up and and flex it our rather than having to chip it off.

    Again, I'm new to this and sort of just sharing what I experienced and what I think. This may be...or not...similar to what others have experienced.

    Here are some photos:

    Close up
    http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...d/P1020011.jpg

    This is a pic of my shims (just entrance reducers). Notice how they fill up the space above the gaps in the frames but not above the frames? Is this normal for others? I wonder if a larger space would help that.
    http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...d/P1020010.jpg

    This is about when I harvest it. I notice that it changes very little every time once it reaches this level of propolis coverage.
    http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...d/P1050486.jpg
    Richard
    Carriage House Farm, North Bend, Ohio

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    Here is a photo I took after tracking down a local bee tree.

    http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...d/P1050645.jpg

    Notice the heavy propolizing at the top of the entrance.

    http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...d/P1050646.jpg
    Richard
    Carriage House Farm, North Bend, Ohio

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