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    Default Biodiesel WVO

    Been reading about biodiesel from Waste Vegetable Oil (fast food joints). There was another seminar at the farm show where I was speaking on bees. You Tube has a bunch of guys making kitchen-grade blender batches.

    I've read the archived searches on biodiesel.

    Apart from the opinions and P&R, has anyone on this list actually a) converted their diesel to run on straight WVO, or b) bought one of those fuel meister units (around $3 grand) to transform WVO with methanol and lye?

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    Save your money and don't buy the fuel meister. Construct an appleseed processor (google it, lots of information). It's MUCH cheaper and the product is the same.

    I made alot of BioD back in the day, so I can try and answer any questions you have.

    Also, get Maria 'girl Mark' Alover's book. It's the BioD 'Bible'.
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    I put Biodiesel in my Bobcats (for landscaping) and quickly switched back to diesel. In a truck, you leave the stench behind at 60 mph. On a tractor, you swirl around in the stench all day. Swirling around in the stench of rancid fast food oil was too much.

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    OD,
    Were you using BIO-diesel, the chemically converted product or were you using straight veggie oil? I thought the chemical conversion removed the rancidity. But I don't know much.
    WayaCoyote

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    Been reading about biodiesel from Waste Vegetable Oil (fast food joints).
    You may have a hard time finding Waste Vegetable Oil now. I have a friend that runs a fast food joint and he said he gets one to two people a month asking about the WVO for biodiesel purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnet-man View Post
    You may have a hard time finding Waste Vegetable Oil now. I have a friend that runs a fast food joint and he said he gets one to two people a month asking about the WVO for biodiesel purposes.
    Some of the seminars suggest offering your own "contract" for "regular" pick-ups of WVO. The idea is that the restuarant owner doesn't want to cancel a rendering company contract only to find out the biodiesel person won't be reliable and consistent. Further, what container can you provide for the restuarant or will you ask them to save the original oil containers for the old, used oil?

    Also, approaching the "big boys" like McDonald's may be a waste of time. The local manager is blanketed with so much corporate liability concerns that the local manager is not in a position to make a decision giving away WVO or canceling a rendering contract.

    Additionally, there are a host of small convenience store and family run businesses that simply toss their old containers filled with waste oil in the dumpster. Perhaps not legal, but it's done. We also have seasonal Friday night fish fries (Elks, K.C. Hall) that may be a sporatic supply.

    I've made some initial inquiries to the smaller, mom-and-pop "greasy spoons." They pay a small fee to have their oil hauled off. They're interested in my proposal, but they're not real interested in making more work for themselves. But they are willing to work with me once I get serious.

    I think a small amount of WVO is out there, enough for a handful of local guys to make biodiesel fuel, but it will never stem our dependence upon foreign imports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayacoyote View Post
    OD,
    Were you using BIO-diesel, the chemically converted product or were you using straight veggie oil? I thought the chemical conversion removed the rancidity. But I don't know much.
    I used a product from a fuel supplier that was a percentage oil and a larger percentage diesel. It smelled really bad and the smell lasted past several fill ups with pure diesel.

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    It smelled really bad
    And they say online that it smells like french fries or donuts.
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