View Poll Results: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

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  1. #1
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    Default Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    I wouldn't do it...
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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    No.

    Between the out gassing from the paint and the lack of cellulose for the bees to feel comfortable in, you're just asking for trouble.
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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    I don't know if it presents problems for the bees or not...regardless, it's a fat waste of paint.
    Try it. What could happen?

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    I don't see why not.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    I don't see why not.
    I don't see much of a problem either. You could probably paint the whole inside, just let it air out a bit or rub with wax or propolis. When I first started beekeeping people said absolutely no paint inside the box!!!! I paint the corner seams from top to bottom to prevent rot, the frame rests. Also paint over knots or any funky areas.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    I wouldn't do it...
    me either.. bees paint the inside with wax and propolis then maintain it. I don't know of anything in a can that will do any better.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    I prime the inside. The boxes last longer and the bees don't mind.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    It's generally recommended in Australia, at least. Just one of those things we do differently here.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeRN View Post
    me either.. bees paint the inside with wax and propolis then maintain it. I don't know of anything in a can that will do any better.
    Not so much. Smooth boxes receive very little propolis on the inside. The coating is more or less to seal gaps and to prevent pests from hiding and laying eggs.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    We get a lot of condensation inside the hives in winter. This is because we don't get freezing temperatures. Freezing temperatures causes the air to be dryer due to the water freezing.
    Boxes that I haven't painted the inside have not lasted as long and seem to actually deteriorate from the inside out. I suppose it depends on how much propolis your bees use too.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    we paint the top and bottom edges and the frame rest area. It makes it easier to scrape areas you dont want to stick together. the paint does not bother the bees at all.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Have painted the insides of my hives, nary a problem. I'll use scrap wood that's been painted or coated with polyurethane. So yes, I would.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Over the years I have painted over 100 deeps on the inside and it does increase the life of the box. I use a quality latex paint and I make sure it does not contain heavy metals. I have no problem with moisture or absconding bees, but a painted or dipped box airs overwinter before it go into service.

    I think the idea about not painting the inside of the box is a hold over from the days of white lead and boiled linseed oil paint. The white lead would oxidize and the powder could get into the honey or pollen. The "boiled oil" was not boiled, but had manganese or lead added as a drier.

    My first choice is not to paint, but to use a copper naphthenate dip.
    37 years - 25 colonies - IPM disciple - naturally skeptic

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    If the inside of the hive is painted, how would you be able to scrape the honey box interiour without getting paint chips in the wax scrapings?
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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    I'm trying painting the Interior of the box with Decking Oil to see how that goes. It does need time to off gas.

    Ian, I don't get much wax on the walls, just some ladder nodules, unless you leave a large gap beside the outside frame. Certainly not enough wax to collect it. Foundationless frames also reduces burr comb.
    Last edited by MattDavey; 02-25-2014 at 01:55 AM.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    I let the bees decide, I leave a bucket of paint in front of the hives with a opener and several tiny brushes, thus far non have elected to redecorate.

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    If the inside of the hive is painted, how would you be able to scrape the honey box interiour without getting paint chips in the wax scrapings?
    Do you scrape the insides of your boxes? How about the edges? Do you scrape the edges of your boxes hard enough to have paint chips in your wax? Something I have never noticed. I think folks are over thinking and worrying this topic.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Do you scrape the insides of your boxes? How about the edges? Do you scrape the edges of your boxes hard enough to have paint chips in your wax? Something I have never noticed. I think folks are over thinking and worrying this topic.
    absolutely, the inside of the boxes get scraped every time they hit the uncapper with a hive tool including the frame rests to remove the propolis. We dont paint the insides of our boxes because its not needed. To me a huge issue would be paint scrapings with the wax scrapings. As we all know, painted wood is good for a few years. Bring in a 10 year old box and scrape down the inside and your going to have lots of paint scraping in the honey.
    CFIA would have a hay day...they are already complaining about painted exteriours.
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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    As I thought, the opening question doesn't really help us understand the topic of painting hives. It's clear, as in a lot of things with beekeeping, there are situations where painting the inside would/could have negative outcome, and there are situations where it would have no outcome or even positive outcome. It all depends!

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    Default Re: Is painting the inside of hive bodies generally recommended?

    Don't do it if you ever want to get your apiary certified under the Certified Naturally Grown standards found here http://www.naturallygrown.org/programs/apiary-standards

    As a novice, I painted my first hive inside and out before I did any reading on the subject. I now paint or stain only the exterior.
    "Everything turns to dust -and there is nothing you can do to stop it".

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