Originally Posted by miele
While I may tend to agree, doing so in a place and manner where it actually means accomplishing something seems to make more sense. No?
I hardly think that "Beesource" is the appropriate public forum for either and likely draws few if any to the site for it's "thoughtful insight" found in the gater.
I do occasionally pass through the gater and find nothing much other than either politics or religion and while it's fun for a chuckle now and then. It usually grows annoying quickly, much like watching school yard kids bickering and fighting. Coming from what would be adults I'm assuming?
I have found that a lot of beeks are like minded and have similar interests and would like to see more in the way of non-bee related topics. But they usually are pushed off the bottom of the page in short order before many if any responses are made. And usually by the professional tailgaters that appear to watch the topics and post to them all day, everyday.
Another observation is that it seems most of the gater regulars rarely if ever have anything to say in the beek forums? But then heaven knows we don't need those "debating skills" in those forums!!
I joined Beesource for a reason and it had nothing to do with either of the afore mentioned topics. I don't have any problem with other topics being integrated and enjoyed. I actually don't think I would find it enjoyable to be confined to "only" beekeeping. Having related topics I find both interesting and a means of finding common ground with others, which is always a good thing.
Politics and religion can both be very inflammatory and divisive and often are. And while I strongly feel they both have their place in our lives, I also believe that they have their own time and place. And I don't particularly find that this is the place for it. There are literally millions of places both needs can be filled.
SO, I guess I will be casting a Nea on this ballot.
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