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  1. #1
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    Default Frames for supers

    I was wondering what commercial operators are using for frames and foundation in their supers.

    I am starting from scratch and will be buying frames and foundation for 50 medium supers this Fall.

    I like the fact that plastic frames don't have to be put together and wax mothes can't damage. I know people say bees don't like them but have had good luck with Pierco black foundation in brood boxes.

    But there is still something about wood that just feels right.

    Hope to get up to 50 or so hives next year and hate to start using something and find it doesn't work.

    Thanks for any input,

    Johnny

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    I like wood and wire foundation for extracting.

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    When I jumped from 1200 to 2600 hives I bought all used of whatever I could find. Since then I've been adding one piece black pierco. I love them. Bears can't hurt them, employees can't rip top bars off, extractors don't destroy them, they just work great. I hand dip them in wax and the bees draw them out on even moderate flows.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    dbest, how do you do the dipping?

    Johnny

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    I made a melter out of an emersion heater and a barrel. I cut a hole about 5" from the bottem and welded in a piece of pipe for the heater. I then filled the barrel 2/3 full of water and filled the top 1/3 with wax. I keep the heater set at 200 degrees. The barrel is wrapped in duct insulation and I cover it with an old sleeping bag every night. I've heard of people using a crock pot and a 4" sponge roller and applying it that way. I can't remember what month but Bee Culture has an article on the process. Also track down Swarm_ trapper on here he does uses the crock pot system.
    I am holding on to the hope I have inside... Kutless

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    >>employees can't rip top bars off, extractors don't destroy them, they just work great

    I have plastic drawn foundation, I have wood frames with drawn foundation, I have wood frames with drawn wax foundation. My employees tell me to keep buying the all plastic frames! They dont pull apart, they dont break as easy inthe uncapper, they scrape easier, and they claim just easier to handle.

    If you would like to listen to people who are un biased and have no link to beekeeping other than just working for a beekeeper, they suggest the all plastic is the ONLY way to go!
    I have to agree with them, but, then again, I also consider cost
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
    www.stepplerfarms.com

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