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  1. #21
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    Could I get a copy of that recipe?

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    Cool Dry lecithin availability.

    I drove to the following places today shopping for the dry lecithin flakes or granules.
    COSTCO: 20 stores discontinued it 1/19/08

    SAMS: None.

    WALMART: NONE

    Lecithin gel capsules: Rite-Aid and Walmark.
    I cut the tip off 50 of the 400 mg capsules and disolved the lecithin in 80 proof Vodka. I used 200 mls of the Vodka, shook the mixture,let it set for 30 minutes, and it did not settle out. --so far.
    Regards,
    Ernie
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    I drove to the following places today shopping for the dry lecithin flakes or granules.
    COSTCO: 20 stores discontinued it 1/19/08

    SAMS: None.

    WALMART: NONE

    Lecithin gel capsules: Rite-Aid and Walmark.
    I cut the tip off 50 of the 400 mg capsules and disolved the lecithin in 80 proof Vodka. I used 200 mls of the Vodka, shook the mixture,let it set for 30 minutes, and it did not settle out. --so far.
    Regards,
    Ernie

    Bees4u, wally world does not carry it. I did the same thing you did today.

    You need to go to your local Vitamin Shop.

    I got 1 ( lecithin granules )today 16 oz size for $9.99, they have a much bigger one than that size. The Tea Tree oil was there too. it was $10.99 big bottle. Essential Peppermint oil was $6.23


    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/e...questid=512893


    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/...ntsource2=main
    I'am ready to mix....

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    48 years - 50 hives - TF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Mansell View Post
    Could I get a copy of that recipe?


    Hey Trevor, I found this while looking around. This may help.



    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Beekeep...s_for_the_Bees

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    Smile You need to go to your local Vitamin Shop.

    Texas Bee,
    Thank you for your information.
    I have two stores within 16 to 20 miles of home.
    This forum really works in many ways!

    regards,
    Ernie
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  8. #28
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    Default Pollin Patty Recipe (Large Batch)

    Ok guys here it is.

    50 lbs of Brewers Yeast
    50 lbs of Sugar or Cane Syrup
    2 cups of HBH or you can add 2 ozs ea of Spearmint and Lemon Grass Oil
    1 lb of citric acid
    96 ozs of Conola oil
    and water as you go.

    Mix it all together and add the water slowly. Hot or near boiling water works best. Bring it to a paste and make sure it is well mixed. The thicker the patty the better.

    With this size, a small cement mixer is advisable.

    Additionally, anything else that would be good for bees can be added, like lecithin.

    You can cut it down if you like, just reduce the ingredients by whatever measure you want. You can also double it if you have a big cement mixer.

  9. #29
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    Thanks A-6.......

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    Just to chime in. I called my local Vitamin shop today. And asked about lecithin, lemmon grass oil and a few other things. He did not have it in stock but he could have it in 2 days from his supplier. So if you check/order some of those things from a local, you won't have to pay extra freight. They can just add it to there stock order.

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    Smile Honey-B-healthy supplies.

    I picked up all of my supplies at a local source. (Lassen's Foods in Ventura)
    More economical than on-line and you are right about no freight charges.

    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries
    Ernie
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    Default Sodium Laurel Sulfate in Honey-B-Healthy

    FYI: Some information that I located 8/19/08

    http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/fac...s/4061fact.pdf

    Sodium lauryl sulfate is used as a flea and tick repellant in one
    registered pesticide product--a flea and tick shampoo for cats and dogs.
    Sodium lauryl sulfate also is a widely used component of many nonpesticidal
    consumer products currently marketed in the United States,
    including shampoos and fruit juices.

    http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?...UREL+SULPHATE+

    This inexpensive detergent is commonly used in cosmetic cleansers, hair shampoos, bath and shower gels, bubble baths, etc. - It is probably the most dangerous ingredient used in skin and hair-care products. In the cleaning industry SLS is used in garage floor cleaners, engine degreasers, car-wash soaps, etc. It is very corrosive and readily attacks greasy surfaces.
    Sodium lauryl sulfate is used throughout the world for clinical testing as a primary skin irritant. Laboratories use it to irritate skin on test animals and humans so that they may then test healing agents to see how effective they are on the irritated skin.

    A study at the University of Georgia Medical College, indicated that SLS penetrated into the eyes as well as brain, heart, liver, etc., and showed long-term retention in the tissues. The study also indicated that SLS penetrated young children's eyes and prevented them from developing properly and caused cataracts to develop In adults.
    May cause hair loss by attacking the follicle. Classified as a drug in bubble baths because it eats away skin protection and causes rashes and infection to occur.

    Is potentially harmful to skin and hair. Cleans by corrosion. Dries skin by stripping the protective lipids from the surface so it can't effectively regulate moisture.

    Another extremely serious problem is the connection of SLS with nitrate contamination. SLS reacts with many types of ingredients used in skin products and forms nitrosomines (nitrates). Nitrates are potential cancer-causing carcinogenics.

    Because of the alarming penetrating power of SLS, large amounts of these known carcinogens are absorbed through the skin into the body. A variation of SLS is SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE (Sodium Lauryl Ether Sulfate- SLES). It exhibits many of the same characteristics and is a higher-foaming variation of SLS.

    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries.
    Ernie
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    Default the recipe I use

    General Purpose Essential Oil Mixture

    A well known commercially available general purpose essential oil product for bees that is similar to the following recipe claims many benefits even though many of those claims have yet to be proven. The following recipe should work about as well as that product and is way cheaper. It can be added in small quantities to feed to encourage feeding. It has been known to occasionally cause robbing behavior due to its great appeal to bees.

    > 5 cups water
    > 2 1/2 pounds of sugar
    > 1/8 teaspoon lecithin granules (used as an emulsifier)
    > 15 drops spearmint oil
    > 15 drops lemongrass oil

    Bring the water to a boil and stir in the sugar until it is dissolved. Once the sugar is dissolved remove the mixture from the heat and quickly add the lecithin and the essential oils. Stir the mixture thoroughly. This solution should have a strong scent and not be left open around bees. Cool before using.

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    [QUOTE=danno;345719]General Purpose Essential Oil Mixture

    > 5 cups water
    > 2 1/2 pounds of sugar
    > 1/8 teaspoon lecithin granules (used as an emulsifier)
    > 15 drops spearmint oil
    > 15 drops lemongrass oil

    is the above ratio of h20 to sugar correct?
    thanks for posting it is appreciated.
    all that is gold does not glitter

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    [QUOTE=stangardener;345799]
    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    General Purpose Essential Oil Mixture

    > 5 cups water
    > 2 1/2 pounds of sugar
    > 1/8 teaspoon lecithin granules (used as an emulsifier)
    > 15 drops spearmint oil
    > 15 drops lemongrass oil

    is the above ratio of h20 to sugar correct?
    thanks for posting it is appreciated.
    Yes water to sugar is correct

  16. #36
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    Bees4U .....Send the searches...



    Girls gett'in the grub on.



    http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...0820081755.jpg

    Belly up to the bar girls... It's on the house.........


    I'll check them in the morning to see how they are doing, on the feed mix.
    Last edited by Texas Bee; 08-22-2008 at 07:54 PM. Reason: add a link

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    Tex!! You got leeches in your hives!!!

    See now you are going to go and spoil um.

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    Stangardener, just making sure you know, but you only use one tablespoon of the solution per gallon of actual feed (syrup).

    And for everyone else, do you think there's any difference using peppermint as opposed to spearmint in the home made HBH formula?

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    Hmm, finally found a page on essential oils that say spearmint has less menthol in it than peppermint. Perhaps that's why it was chosen over peppermint.

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    Default Essential oils web site

    Ernie
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