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    i belive somehow cape bee's from south africa has been brought into, the USA . ccd has the same systems no bee's no honey, just gone. this is the same way Cape bees behave , please we need to look at this, cape bee' are about the size of drones all they do is eat honey and lay unfertlized eggs. when hive is empty they will go to next coloney and do the same

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    <all they do is eat honey and lay unfertlized eggs>

    They must lay some fertilized eggs or they would not survive, Queens and workers will come from fertilized eggs, or are these the worker bees that can raise their own queen without having a queen.

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    Cape bees are not a likely source of the problem. They've actually identified a suspect virus, IPV, short for Israeli Paralysis Virus. While probably not the only cause, because bees are more suseptable due to other problems such as chemicals, and other bacteria. Many people believe that no bees are imported to the US, which is not true. Australian bees have been imported, and IPV was found in packaged bees comming from Australia. I suspect that the reason other contenants are experiencing the same thing, is because they have purchased bees from somewhere that had this virus, if it is indead the culprit. Other possible ways that we have imported this virus, or whatever the culprit is, is that we import lots of bee products from places like China. While China may not be able to import honey into the US, lots of Royal Jelly has come from China. Queen breeders then use this RJ in queen rearing. PBS has a great video on this, and it has been posted here on Beesource. Its an interesting program to watch.

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    > Cape bees are not a likely source of the problem.

    Agreed. Cape Bees are such a problem, everyone would have noticed
    their beachhead and establishment here. Cape Bees are one of the
    big reasons why we need better inspections of imported goods, as
    there is nothing stopping additional AHB from arriving in goods sent
    to Florida and Gulf Coast ports from South American, so there is
    also nothing stopping the arrival of the Cape Bee.

    > They've actually identified a suspect virus, IPV, short for
    > Israeli Paralysis Virus.

    Not really considered a suspect any more by anyone except
    those who authored the paper claiming that it was a "suspect".
    The reason is that they found IAPV in old samples of bees kept
    frozen from years before CCD showed up. (The rest of us call
    the virus "ILPV" for "Ian Lipkin's Pet Virus", as he was the guy
    who grandstanded around about how "important" this finding
    was.) But Deformed Wing Virus is very very likely to have a
    hand in CCD, as it consistently shows up in cases of CCD,
    where IAPV was shown to be less consistently found in
    "CCD hives".

    > IAPV was found in packaged bees coming from Australia

    No, that accusation was known to be baseless when it was made,
    and the accusation was retracted soon thereafter by the US
    Government as a whole on behalf of the researchers who rushed
    to publish before they had a full set of data to analyze.

    In fact, the case can be made that ILPV got started here in the US,
    as more variants of ILPV have been found here than anywhere else,
    and the rule of thumb is that where a virus has spent the most time
    is where one will find the most variants.

    The details are here:
    http://bee-quick.com/reprints/claims_collapse.pdf

    (as puiblished in Bee Culture over a year ago).

    The whole series of CCD articles are here:
    http://bee-quick.com/reprints

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    Jim, thanks for the updates on CCD. I've been out of the loop for a few months on that. Thought I had up to date info.

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