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    Default Fumagilin-B

    I am going to be checking for Nosema here pretty soon ( thank you Sheri for showing me how). I wanted to get some Ideas on ways to apply Fumagilin-B ,in the event that I find something. I dont use division board feeders so it would have to be in a trickle method or a patty form. Just looking to get some ideas.

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    Default medvet

    Contact medvet, the makers of fumigilan-b, they can advise you on some options for treating. How are you checking for nosema?

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    I would also like to know how to check for nosema?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanM View Post
    I would also like to know how to check for nosema?
    OK then,

    First get sample of bees, to get a sample, grab "field force" only in the middle of the day. Put the bees into a bottle of rubbing alcohol (70% / 90% isopropyl).

    Now get a 400 power scope.

    To get the right ratio ( ten bees=1ml water) and grid up.

    Make a wet slide there should no more than twenty five spores per veiwing, 25= 1,000,000 spore count per bee.

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    I think ill stick to sending a sample to the beetlesville lab.

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    JM,

    it only takes five minutes or so, once you get the hang of it, it's as easy as tying your shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papar View Post
    Contact medvet, the makers of fumigilan-b, they can advise you on some options for treating. How are you checking for nosema?
    Im going to be testing the same way Keith advised.

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    But i still dont have a powerscope.

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    If you go to Randy Olivers web site http://www.scientificbeekeeping.com//index.php . He has detailed instructions as well as where to get the scope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Mansell View Post
    Im going to be testing the same way Keith advised.
    Hi Trevor
    So, you got a scope?
    Sheri

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    Just a heads up for those wanting Fumidil this fall, better get your orders in, there is already a 2 week waiting list at some places, and the rush isn't on yet....
    Sheri

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    Default Honey B Healthy

    Has anyone tried Honey B Healthy? I have heard that it helps with nosema ceranae.

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    >>some Ideas on ways to apply Fumagilin-B

    I apply it to my wintering hives in suirp, through my regular feeding program. I pre mix the powder into my surip tank, as I am filling it, to the prescribed amount and feed it with my hive top feeders.

    I dont feed it in the spring this way, I am afraid of residue problems associated with this. If I were going to feed inthe spring, it would have to be with a smaller feeder, and a smaller amount to make sure the bees consumed it ALL, and left nothing in storage. I know some guys here that will trickle their spring time hives, they call it a "cup of soup" treatment.

    I dont beleive I have ever heard of feeding this in patty form,
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
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    >>Honey B Healthy

    I wish there was some actual independant studdy on this,
    The fellow who sells this stuff, forget his name, said straight out there was nothing tested to prove his findings. I give him credit for outright saying that. I realize the costs involved in such studdies, but really, if someone is going to sell a product across the country, potentially makeing profits off the product, why not prove the findings with studdy, and relieve all that grey questionable area?
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
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    I got my fumaglin B last week from Mann Lake, so they must not be out yet, and i aslo plan on feeding it to my bees in a syrup in the fall.

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    As for HBH, I seem to remember there was a study showing Nosema C control with a long term program of regular HBH use. Perhaps it helps boost the immune system or creates a negative hive environment for Nosema C. Someone with a better memory might elaborate on this?
    Sheri

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    Sheri the H-B-H,I believe just helps take the stress factor out of the hive,we sell it.But we are still going to rotate between fumidal and H-B-H.

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    [QUOTE=Ian;336384I dont beleive I have ever heard of feeding this in patty form,[/QUOTE]

    That's because you haven't had the best. That's for the guy up in PA.

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    Keith, don't start!

    Are you saying you are putting Fumidil in your patties? We have thought about doing that, with the logic of "as long they end up eating it what difference would it make how they get it in them?"
    It would sure make it easier in Calfironia when they don't need the syrup and we are putting the patties to them anyway.
    Sheri
    I was going to correct the spelling of "California" but I like it....I'm gonna leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnK and Sheri View Post
    Keith, don't start! .
    Ahh party poopers. lol

    Sheri, I was referring to HBH, I miss quoted Ian.

    BTW, we also put it in our mite med, but we use our own HBH receipe.

    HRS, that should help you, with your queen loss, but really, selling that stuff for $500 when you can make it for $20, how does Lonnie say it" thats highway robbery". LOL yes it is.

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