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  1. #21
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    Anything with a handle is manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rate of speed View Post
    Anything with a handle is manual.
    And..... Anything without is a.........

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    And anything without isnt beekeeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rate of speed View Post
    And anything without isnt beekeeping.
    Ok Manual. lol

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    Thats the sad part about our industry.Besides forklifts and some automated extracting,our job is all about manual.:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Jarrett View Post
    Dan,

    It works like a ice block graber or battery graber. It ables you to grab a double deep and move it to another pallet without bending over and bear hugging the hive to move it.It works with one or two persons. I work by myself so this helps me move hives around the yard easly.
    A picture is worth a thousand words, I will see if I can post one.
    I would love to see it. I manhandled hives this past pollinating season and it nearly killed me. Standing in 5" of water with beards on the front of hives and them PO'ed as I try to bend over and pick them up to move them was not my idea of fun. I gotta come up with a better way to work by myself.
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    Smile The #. Here is a start.

    You will need a good fork lift with side shift and a truck.
    You will need to gather data on the cost per unit of use/production for both items.
    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    You will need a good fork lift with side shift and a truck.
    You will need to gather data on the cost per unit of use/production for both items.
    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries
    Sideshift is nice. But I know only one of about a dozen comm. beekeepers who has one. I think Hackenberg has it on his Bobcat. One can sideshift by skidding.
    Mark Berninghausen "Ships at a distance have every man's wish on board." Zora Neale Hurston

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    Smile Side shift

    My boom has side shift......if you push hard enough.

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    Most commercial outfits we know have either a Swinger or Hummerbee. Both have standard side shift.
    Sheri

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    Smile Flyer Jim

    Side Shift???

    I guess they mean when your buddy had to tie off the end of the boom to help you swing that first row. And then the second row too.

    If you don't know what I'm talking about sorry

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    Wink

    Tom, I know what you mean. Where I live it's hard to find a flat spot big enough to check your oil, much less unload a load of bees.

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    Default Hive loading

    So now you know why the bee boom has the metal loop on the end of the boom.
    I carried a shovel and dug leveling ramps for my old 1954 International with a home made boom.
    For those who do not know what we are talking about a boom truck must be somewhat level in two directions. ( front to back & side to side.)
    Boom loading is so much fun when you have a wind too.
    A side shift is a must have item.

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    Big Grin

    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    For those who do not know
    Regards,
    Ernie
    Ya, for those who don't know.......

    Build in, a self leveling hyd micro switch system. You just have to be smarter than the boom.

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    Default Build in, a self leveling hyd micro switch system. You just have to be smarter than t

    You must mean those pretty flashing lights on a Payne, pain, boom.
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    Lightbulb

    Quote Originally Posted by BEES4U View Post
    You must mean those pretty flashing lights on a Payne, pain, boom.
    Ernie
    No... no payne

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    I never could quite figure those Payne lights out. (anyone know?) I 'm using one on a 1 ton but just level it by guessing.
    It sure is fun loading in a strong wind.
    We have an old forklift with side shift.I don't think I could load anything without it. It also has "forward launch". Found that one accidentally the other night!
    ---Mike

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    Default Bee booms

    Yeah the Paynes were the Caddilacs weren't they? My electric loaders all had side to side, fore&aft plus raise & lower headframe. And if something goes wrong, you can always unload by hand!

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    Default I never could quite figure those Payne lights out. (anyone know?)

    Try to stop the red light from blinking and get the boom into the green light.
    It is good on paper. But, after a while when you are tired and you have been stung a few times it becomes mentally challanging to say the least.

    I have not brought up the subject of cables, electric cord reels, and the up and down push buttons.

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    The only sideshift one needs is from one hive to another.

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