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  1. #1
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    Default Better Queens???

    Got some queens shipped to me. Each queen was in a her own little cage in a battery box with lots of workers to feed queens. It was interesting to see that some cages had more workers feeding the queen then other cages. Some cages had some bees feeding her, some had non.

    This lead to another thought. The queens that had more workers attending to them... does that mean that they will be better queens? Maybe the phermone is stronger.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    Default not very scientific observation

    when i catch queens i select out the top performers. probably the top 5 % get this distinction of being selects. I was recently packaging several orders in the field and noticed that one box that had 30 selects in it had attracted double the amount of fly by attendants than the boxes of 50 standard queens that were very near by. this brought me to suspect the same as you. the boxes sit open for 15 - 20 minutes sometimes while i prepare them all and a shake nurse bees in all at the same time the box of selects almost did not need nurse bees added after a few minutes.

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    Big Grin

    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Isaac View Post
    This lead to another thought.
    Oh know, not again.... Just kidding Chef.

    Only time will tell if she a good one.

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    Default to keith

    Keith: Please see my post in the 101 section entitled "getting numbers up... advice from the big guys please".
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    Lucas: You sell nucs?
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    Smile "getting numbers up... advice

    Feed your bees syrup in one gallon buckets with 3-5 maximum small holes.
    Feed your bees pollen supplement.
    Make two frame nucs as often as the bees can make them.
    Feed all the divides a slow stimulative syrup feeding.
    An over-wintered double should be able to make at least four of the two frame nucs.
    Currently I am making four queen mating nucs out of a ten frame hive, replacing the old queen with a queen cell, and letting the hive build up for over-wintering.( My mating nucs are 1/2 the length top bars with full depth frames. It cost more per unit of production. But, the bees produce a very good queen.
    Remember, replace all of the old queens with "High Performance Queens"
    Two frames of sealed brood should yield 3, 200 x 2 = 6,400 bees + the bees adhereing to the frame.
    You might consider buying two pound packages in early April and let them build up your numbers.
    I am booking package bee orders for April 2009. I brought home 200 of the 4 pound packages this April. The 200 packages were transported in my 5' X 10' tandom axel trailer with OSB sides & top.

    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries.
    Last edited by BEES4U; 05-19-2008 at 10:54 PM. Reason: I wanted bold print
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    Smile Maybe the phermone is stronger.

    She may be an older queen.
    I cage out my queens 17 days after emergence from the cell and when I see sealed brood!
    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries
    Ernie
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    Default

    I think it's the pheromones.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Smile Lucas: You sell nucs?

    Chef Isaac.
    I sell nucs in Ventura County Calif. which is 50 Miles below Santa Barbara and 50 miles above Los Angeles.
    Regards,
    Ernie Lucas Apiaries
    Last edited by BEES4U; 05-20-2008 at 09:26 PM. Reason: I misspelled Santa Barbara & Los Angeles
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