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  1. #1
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    Question Chilled Brood - Weak Hive - a plan ??

    Hi everyone,

    I just checked one of my hives this afternoon. It's basically a 10-deep box with only about 2 frames of bees working the tops of 3 frames. Some of the brood was dead -- mostly on the outer edges, gray and not hard. Seems similar to what I read are the descriptions for sac brood except the larvae are NOT "easily removed intact" which according to Penn State's "Honey Bee - Parasites, Pests, Predators, and Diseases" is a condition of Sacbrood. So I'm thinking it's chilled brood -- which fits with the few adult bees.

    The Queen is / has been laying and she's a last summer's queen. I think she's fine.

    Since I eventually want to get the hive changed over to a 8-Medium, small cell foundation configuration, I'm considering shaking the bees into an 8-Medium box this week end and letting them start over. I could easily wire in some pollen & honey (or put in a couple of suitable shallow frames) to help in addition to a feed pail. It would speed up the change over and give them a smaller box.

    What thinks you??
    Thanks for your inputs.
    Scott
    "If you're doing all the dos, you ain't got time to do the don'ts"

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    Since you are planning on switching over to a medium box and frame configuration, I would do it now while the hive is still small and weak. I would remove whatever brood is still viable and healthy and wire it into a medium frame for the new hive. You can always rotate these frames to the outside and remove them at a later date.
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    Thx - for reply

    Carbide,
    Thx for the reply / validation of my plan. There is some viable brood -- so I'll move that. I appreciate your post.
    Scott
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    Why not just put the frames that the bees are working into a three frame or five frame NUC? I would leave the frames and comb alone and not try to fit it into a smaller frame and risk the chance of hurting brood. That's what I would do.

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    Default Thanks for replies . . .

    I see good point about both replies. Since the amount of brood is very little, I'm thinking I can wire it in a smaller frame and avoid damage. Hopefully that's not overly optimistic.

    I did make a couple of follower boards to make a smaller space. I'll still be able to feed easily with a pail feeder. Last year I tried a 2-sided homemade frame feeder with wire ladders -- on one side I had bunch of drownings so I hesitate to go to a deep NUC where the only feeder I have is the frame style.

    Hopefully, they'll build up . . .
    "If you're doing all the dos, you ain't got time to do the don'ts"

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