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  1. #1
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    Default Frame Assembly Jig

    I'm planning on getting the pieces for another hive sometime soon. I found while making the first hive that the frames take the longest to make. Assembling frames is easy, it just takes a while when I do them one at a time. I was wondering if it would be worth getting this frame assembly jig http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com....asp?pcode=911 If I buy 40 assembled frames, it will cost about $15 more than buying the pieces. But with the jig, I can get 10 done at once, and it should be able to pay for itself after 80 frames. Would it be worth getting this? Does anyone else have one?
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    I prefer this one. You can build it in about 15 minutes out of scrap and it works great.
    http://www.myoldtools.com/Bees/framejig/framejig.htm

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    I built the one from the plans section here at Beesource. Sure makes it easier and quicker to assemble them.

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    Default Agree

    It is really worth the time to make the jig.

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    Almost any of them seem to work jut fine. I got mine from Kelly's. I can't imagine putting frmaes together without one.

    The do it yourselfers who can rip boards will certainly argue for making your own,a nd I can see why, but if you are not handy, or lack the toosl to do so, then get the brushy mountain or Kelly version and have at it. If your time si worth that of at least a McDonalds patty flipper, it will pay for itself in a few supers of frames.

    Keith
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    frame jig And foundation board

    whether you buy one or make your own it's definitely worth having one. And don't forget a foundation board. makes installing foundation a snap. Berkshire

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    make or buy one use it then you will wonder how you lived without it

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    I have a form board already that I bought. I was using it to check if each frame I made was square. I'll see if I can make a jig over the weekend. It seems easy enough to make. We have all the tools. Should make life easier after we get the next hive's parts.
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    IMO it's worth having a jig if you are making more than ten frames. I wish I had bought one 33 years ago instead of five years ago.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    this is a thank you to ross above for the picture of the frame jig in old tools. very simple, very easy, works good!
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    I really like the jig Ross has on his website. It is simple enough for an amateur like me to build and doesn't cost anything if you use scrap.
    BTW, Ross, it looks like your top bars are beveled; are you foundationless?
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    Yes, I've been 100% foundationless for several years now thanks to Michael Bush.

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    A few more scrap wood bee projects.
    screened bottom board...
    http://www.myoldtools.com/Bees/botto...ottomboard.htm
    Safe top bar beveling...
    http://www.myoldtools.com/Bees/frames/
    Super assembly jig, needs more work...
    http://www.myoldtools.com/Bees/boxjig/
    And a couple of different nucs...
    http://www.myoldtools.com/Bees/nuc/

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    Thanks for the pics, Ross. That's why they say a pic is worth a thousand words.
    I, too, use a lot of foundationless, but have not yet tried the beveled-frame approach. I will, however, when I buy a tablesaw.

    Thanks,

    Jeffrey
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    Ross, thanks for the pictures. I built one last week using frames from Kelley's. Worked great. Then I placed an order with Brushy Mt. ... From the outside of the end bars it measures about 3/16 in. more than the Kelley frames.
    Anyone else have this problem. Guess I need to build another one for the Brushy Mt frames.

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    Mine works with Dadant frames. That's pretty much all I use. If you screwed it together you could probably shim it.

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    I have one from Kelleys and one from Brushy. I haven't used mine from Brushy yet but I like the fact that it will do 3 different frame sizes. With Kelley's you have to buy two different jigs.

    I've put together a couple thousand frames with my Kelley jig and jigs are definately time savers.
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    I also made a jig from beesource plans.It worked so well that I made a similer jig to assemble supers,2 at a time.Square up with a framing square and tack a diagonal 'til the glue sets

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    >With Kelley's you have to buy two different jigs.

    Actually, just buy the small one, it works for all of them just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    >With Kelley's you have to buy two different jigs.

    Actually, just buy the small one, it works for all of them just fine.
    Yeah I've put together a couple hundred deep frames with the smaller Kelly jig but had a tougher time keeping the larger frames square. It works ok I guess but it was slowing me down.

    That's why I got the Brushy jig as I have 500 or so deep frames to assemble.

    We'll see how it works.
    Dan Williamson
    B&C Honey Farm http://www.flickr.com/photos/9848229@N05/

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