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  1. #1
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    Default Mini Mating Nucs

    I'm in the market for purchasing some mini-mating nucs to expand my queen-rearing capabilities. The reason I'm purchasing is because I don't have too much time on my hands to build them myself, and the nice little set-ups look pretty nifty. Even if I did build them myself, I doubt that I could come close to the workmanship of the ones on the market.

    The three models that I'm considering are:

    Apidea http://www.swienty.com/?pid=1&id=113170

    Warnholz http://www.beeworks.com/catalog/inde...roducts_id=129

    Swi-Bi http://www.mannlakeltd.com/catalog/page67.html

    So-far, I like the options of the Apidea best (removable feeder, plastic frames, plastic inner-cover, strong durable build, room for additional frames). The drawback to Apidea is that they would have to be imported, and they are quite expensive in relation to the other two models

    The other two models don't seem to be made from material that is as durable as Apidea, however they both are quite a bit cheaper than the Apidea nuc.



    I am wondering if anybody has any experiences to share for any of the three models, or if anybody has a different model to suggest.

    Thanks,

    JH
    Happiness comes from within

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    Default MH beeworks

    check out the the photo bucket link

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    Hello Velbert,

    Seems like the Mann Lake model is quite a bit smaller, whilst the Betterbee is bigger.

    Can I get your thoughts on which one you prefer, and why?


    JH
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    try lazybeestudio.com

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    I recently have been making some mini mating nucs for myself. I was not going to post about it until I received notification from the USPTO that they had received and filed the provisional patent application I sent them, but I'm sure they have it by now and it takes 5 weeks before they get the notification out.

    What I have here is a system which allows for easy drawing of comb in the mini nucs. Four nucs are integrated onto an existing colony while surrounded by a shallow super. You can put it over the brood chamber or honey supers as long as the bees are building comb.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2258.jpg

    Foundation for shallow frames are used for starter strips.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2257.jpg

    I used #2 hardware cloth to support a removable inner floor which is large enough to allow movement through the floor when inner floor is not in place.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2265.jpg

    After the comb is drawn in the mini nucs and they are removed from the colony and ready for a queen cell the floor can be laid on the hardware cloth.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2260.jpg

    After the floor is place the removable divider board and queen excluder are inserted in the grooves to create a feeding chamber.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2261.jpg

    When the lid is in place it will touch the top of the queen excluder so the queen can't access the feeding chamber. (A framing square is used to demonstrate.)

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2262.jpg

    Then you can put the comb and top bars in place after dumping some bees in the mini nuc.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2263.jpg

    The feeding chamber can be eliminated by removing the divider board and queen excluder for adding more frames.

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/IMG_2264.jpg

    I think this system is really versatile. It's easy to draw comb. You can have a feeding chamber or remove it for larger nesting area. The mini nucs can be stacked on top of one another after removing the inner floor from the upper housing unit. I also have a floor and system for overwintering on a colony which gives each side 12 frames with each having its' own feeder that is 1 1/2" wide and just as deep and long as the mini nuc housing unit, not pictured. Also not pictured is the lid. The lid is just like a regular outer lid, just smaller and more dainty. The mini nucs in the picture were made of extra stuff I had laying around. Any that I make for sale will contain all new material and the luaun on the ends will be of exterior grade hardwood. I could also make a regular floor resembling a full size bottom board if requested. (I like the removable inner floor because it weighs less and does not need to be attached to the housing unit for when you move the mini nuc.)

    Jonathan, if you'd be interested in some of these I will be selling them for $15 apiece. If anyone is interested, send me a PM.

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    Exclamation You did a really nice job thinking out those Q mating nucs!

    Well done....

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    Rob Mountain

    Well done indeed!!! What a particle solution.
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    WV- Neat system. What keeps the feeder from leaking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSbee View Post
    WV- Neat system. What keeps the feeder from leaking?
    I was originally thinking that I would use some candy like they do in this video; http://www.iwf.de/iwf/do/mkat/detail...bees&Offset=10
    or use a baggie feeder like peggjam does; http://208.69.121.208/forums/showthread.php?t=211405
    or use the baggie feeders that are put into place ten cut with a razor for tiny slits for the bees to suck syrup from. I have had the same question from those interested in the nucs so now I see the need to incorporate a leak proof container for syrup to be poured in to for ease and simplicity. I've contacted some manufacturers of custom containers to get a quote for a small box type container to insert into the feeding chamber and I have yet to get a reply. I'm now considering building a leak proof container to amalgamate with the divider board to hold syrup. I've already built one and I think it will work nicely. The good thing about it is that I can add it to the provisional patent application when I file for the utility patent after I get the it "right". I'll post a pic of the the new divider/feeder when I get time.

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