Ed, KA9CTT profanity is IGNORANCE made audible
I don't think anyone would be afraid to ask him their questions to his face. People getting hurt over something like this? Wouldn't that be juvenile? (and given the demographics of beekeeping, juvenile is about the last term that should be used, unless it has become synonymous with hexa through octogenarian )
Never confuse debate/discussion of an idea with a judgment about the originator of that idea.
Bee Sting Honey - So Good, It Hurts!
Well seems that once again here on beesource.com we have an impasse.
I doubt any discussion about Dr. R will result in folks changing their minds. There is only one thing that will do that, and that depends on the good Dr. himself. We know he is here so who knows what the future will bring. A saying comes to mind though: "If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got."
Last edited by Keith Benson; 10-06-2007 at 10:20 AM.
Bee Sting Honey - So Good, It Hurts!
" I know Jesus and I've talked to God and I remember this from when I was young. Faith, hope and love are three good things He gave us and the greatest is love." Alan Jackson. I don't think I sense a whole lot of love here.
"The gods of the hills are not the gods of the valleys." Ethan Allen
> Now would be a good time for ALL OF US to turn to our
> faith for further guidance.
This request is all well and good as applied to personal interaction,
but it is a very very bad idea to "turn to faith" when addressing
mite control in beehives.
This is [SIZE=3]EXACTLY[/SIZE] why folks had questions for Pedro, and
expected clear answers.
We simply do not and cannot allow issues of "faith" to apply to
beekeeping, less so when we are being asked to have "faith" in
the claims of mere mortals like ourselves.
To go further, there should be a principle of "separation of beekeeping
and religion". Barry tolerates quite a few "religious" or religion-influenced
discussions here, and that is very open-minded of him. But they don't
belong mixed in with the practical pragmatic beekeeping. We don't
want to offend the atheists among us, now do we?
want to offend the atheists among us, now do we? <<<
Truthfully, yes, we do.
Because I am not PC, I am offended many times daily, I have not died from it yet, and I don't really care if I, you, or anyone else is offended. I think it is just a part of life.
I also think if this goes any further, it should be restarted in tailgater.
Childish, at 62....THANKS
Stupid.... Read my other post..Only George, Bjorn, and Jim are licensed to call me stupid.
Maybe I'll become a Born Again Re-Fogger. (BARF)
Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
I am asked to apologize for having offended participants in this forum. I have done that many times, and I doing it again here, if in fact some have been offended by my remarks.
However, I must state again very emphatically. God is in my thoughts every second of my life. I strongly believe in His creation, bees being one of them. I respect every man´s religion and political views. This is one of the greatest things about our great US of America. All I ask is that my faith not be tainted. I am profoundly involved in my faith and anyone who wishes to find out all they have to do is to ask those in my church circles both in Virginia and in Spain. If that is the route that I wish to take all I ask is that I not be taken to task for it! I mention my faith and God´s work in every walk of life, why should I not do the very same in Beesource? Please remember that is is my way of life and that I do not mean to offend anyone. I practice The Lords Creed continuously and I "ask to be forgiven of my trespasses as I forgive those who trespass against me."
I strongly believe that The Lord gave me an intellect to chose the kind of tasks that I should lead in my life, and beekeeping has been one of them (as early as nine years of age). I believe that The Lord guides me in my actions, hence in beekeeping. Why not praise His blessings? I can not participate in any sector in which I am barred from praising Him!, and I am extremely proud of it. Again, sorry if there are objections to my way of life.
Those who know me will agree that I am constantly looking for friends and that I am an easy person to get along. When I joined Beesource, I thought that I would find lots of friends here since we were beekeepers. I have offered the best that I have and have not asked for anything in return, except respect for my faith. I still hope that I can make amends and continue to provide assistance to beekeepers. This is a time when our industry needs all the help we can get. Or am I wrong?
Have a blessed day in the company of The Lord.
Dr. Pedro Rodriguez
It's a sad state of affairs when a board like this is reduced to intentional offense from anyone.
Dr. Pedro Rodriguez . . .
Thank you. Welcome to BeeSource.
To ALL OTHERS . . .
Now, let's go forward w/ kindness in our hearts, and discuss BEES!
Last edited by Dave W; 10-13-2007 at 09:47 AM.
Pedro, you are always welcome to participate on the board and I will do my best to keep all name calling, personal jabbing and foul language out of it. Glad you're doing well.
So far, excellent results
To everything there is a season....