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Thread: 6 1/4" frames

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    Default 6 1/4" frames

    I have frames without holes for cross wires. Do I need to drill the holes and cross wire? I am going to use wired foundation, these are for honey not brood.

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    Wired foundation should be plenty strong enough without the cross wires in my opinion.
    "Younz" have a great day, I will.

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    Default starting out

    We started with deeps and wish we had went to mediums straight away.

    With wired deeps we used cross wiring in an X(top and bottom holes) more to keep the foundation from bowing.

    http://zacharyfarmsllc.com/electric_embedding.htm

    We tried some unwired mediums and repeated the crosswiring.

    Now our standard is medium Wtb wood frames with crimped wire foundation without any additional crosswiring added by us. You can make a bunch of frames and install foundation in a hurry without the crosswiring step.

    Sure hope power napper is right cause we got several hundred out there full of honey.

    I think they will do fine without the cross wires but we will see if they hold up in a few weeks.
    Lat 56N

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    >we will see if they hold up in a few weeks.

    If you're gentle they will hold up with no wire.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    The trick here is to start out with low RPMs on the extractor
    and wait until the "bucking" evens out before you increase
    the RPMs at all. (Lay a hand against the skin of the extractor
    and you can feel them if your rig is bolted down well. If not
    bolted down well, you will be able to know with ease.)

    Comb blow-outs can slow you down to 1/4 your expected
    extraction capacity, a good justification for cross-wiring or
    plastic foundation for supers.

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    As Jim stated, low rpms will keep alot of frames from blowing out.
    "I reject your reality, and substitute my own." Adam Savage

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    Thanks for the comments. For now the low RPMs should not be a problem as the extractor is a 3/6 hand crank, but never know when a larger motorized one will be found.

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