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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Albany, NY

    Post ccd strains of bee's

    does anyone know if ccd is causing damage to any one individual strain of honeybee more than the other?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    New York City


    No, the strain of bee and even the producer of the queens
    has been looked at with care - no pattern has appeared.

    In fact, the "common factors" that one would expect to find
    simply don't exist for CCD. They've gone back several times
    to question the victims of CCD, and found nothing that could
    be called a "common factor".

    David Hackenberg begs to disagree with this assesment, and
    has been circulating this document for over a month.

    He thinks that there is a common factor in the list of crops
    where bees were placed prior to CCD appearing. He blames
    systemic insecticides for causing CCD.

    I don't agree with Mr. Hackenberg, simply because I've seen
    Imidaclopid kills before, and the symptoms of CCD are very
    different from both "high dose" and "light dose" scenarios.

    I have a different list of "key evidence", some which conflicts
    with other pieces of evidence.

    Bottom line, we STILL just don't know what causes
    the problem, and even the statements made by the research
    teams working on the problem are pure speculation, without
    any support better than vague indications.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Perkasie, PA


    I think that there has been a tendency of migratory beekeepers and even hobbiests to call every colony lost "CCD". Maybe this is confusing things a bit. What are the current diagnostic criteria? Last time I heard of something like this, it was "swine mystery disease" which later turned out to be a non-lethal virus combined with questionable record keeping, breeding and husbandry practices. Interestingly, once clean facilities/pathogen free pigs were established, many of the issues with poor ventilation, nutrition etc seemed unimportant.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Knoxville, TN
    Excellent article Mr. Fischer

    as is Mr. Hackenburg's letter of caution
    Last edited by MichaelW; 05-24-2007 at 11:52 AM.


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