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  1. #1
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    Question Caucasian Queen Breeder

    Has Anyone had any Luck with getting Bolling Bee to respond to them ? I have Called and left messages and E-Mailed them and NO responce... I have done this for two (2) years and can't figure what is going on!!

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    From what I've read about Bolling Bee, consider yourself lucky that you're getting no response before you send them money. Others have complained in the past about sending money, then getting no response.

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ht=Bolling+Bee
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ht=Bolling+Bee

    Try a search for "Bolling Bee." It should turn up lots of info on service others have received in the past.

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    I've heard good things about long creek apiaries - they are in tenn. and have caucasians

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    Default Long Creeks are crosses of Bolling bee and Holman's

    The guy at long creek seemed nice, but Bolling bee got my money. Now i am left to wonder if i will get my queens in May? Does anyone know the newspaper where this guy lives, this Mr. livings? I think there needs to be some print on this guy. We need a list of breeders with a link of customer satisfaction right next to it. I would have known more had that been the case.

    If you are a stinker breeder reading this, you need to know this: I can publish what your customers report regarding your business practices and then you can try to sue me. I think every single fly by night, no answer the phone, never send the product breeder needs to be right there in print, so we can aid you in researching exactly what ETHICS mean. It is very obvious why some of you do not advertise in the journals, you can't, you have done wrong and you can not get ad print. Well i think you deserve print, just not ad.

    Chirssy Shaw

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    Exclamation Consumer Report

    >We need a list of breeders with a link of customer satisfaction right next to it. I would have known more had that been the case.

    This is one of the reasons we have the Consumer Report Forum. If you have something to say about a product or a supplier, that is the place to say it.
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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    I had the same communication problem as well with Bolling Bee. It took months to get a reponse. I don't know why? I have had so far a very positive experience with long creek.

  7. #7
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    A couple of years ago I ordered queens from Bolling. They all arrived dead. Thankfully, they were insured. The good news is he did fulfill my order.

    Because of the dollar amount of the order, I had to write to the regional branch of the post office to get my insurance money. I needed the receipt from Bolling showing they were insured.

    After many phone calls and e-mails, (granted, during a very busy time of year), the receipt showed up in the mail and I was able to process my claim.

    Another local beekeeper I started mentoring ordered himself a one package from Bolling that same year. It arrived several weeks late, and half of the bees were dead on the bottom of the cage. I didn't want to handicap this first-year beekeeper or add to his frustration so I just gave him a nuc from my supply. We poured in the remaining bees at the entrance. The queen was dead in the cage in that package.

    I have no personal beef with this guy, but I'm not going to do business with him, nor would I repeat business with anyone, local or mail-order, who would not stand behind their quality.

    Surely there are better producers and dealers. I'm not sure how this guy stays in business.

    Grant
    Jackson, MO
    Beekeeping With Twenty-five Hives: https://www.createspace.com/4152725

  8. #8
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    When we are dealing with nature, thinks may not go as planed. But lack of communication is not exceptable. The best way to handle it is not to do business with people like that. That is the same principle that naturally happens in bees. If a colony does not perform, the bees supersede the queen.

  9. #9
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    Default Bolling Bee

    I ordered a few years ago, when the new guy took over. He seemed
    like a nice guy over the phone and was helpful.

    Only 1 arrived dead. They didn't seem to over winter very well, and
    the TM's ate um up, so I gave up on getting more.

    Then I heard from a source that there was a SHB infestation at the breeding
    yard. The whole story is probably searchable. Beesource is a fantastic reference
    and the old posts can be valuable history.

  10. #10
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    Default Evidently

    He did not seem to have a problem cashing my check. It seems this is a long history of near or actual fraud. Cavet Emptor, i understand, but that does not excuse a lack of ethics. It just is this simple, if you one time take money and then do not provide the product, that is simple theft by means of fraud. I once had a friend who ordered 250 queens from a huge ad in on of the magazines, every single one of those queens were unmated and too old to mate. That was the last year that business was around. The Internet is why this guy can continue. I really should not have to do background checks on every single order i place. I need the variations in the caucasian lines left in the US, not an oh well!

    Chrissy

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    Default Btw

    The outfit that sold those virgins were out of business that year.

    CS

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    Smile I found some

    Hello

    You may want to check out long creek apiaries they have caucasins i have three packages coming the first week in may. I found them in the beesource part on bees dealers the guy has some of the originals bees from boiling bee when the other owner was running it.

    Tom

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    Default Been giving that some thought

    Yes, i spoke with him along the line. He said he could mate the caucasians in the Russian drone stock and from what i see of that combination i sure do like. Let me know how it goes for you and if everything is up and up. My bees just hate it when i promise them a clean split without a queen.

    Chrissy

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    Ordered a package from Long Creek today. They say package due here on the first week of June. I will probably have to feed them all summer long, but it they are as good as advertised it will be worth it.

    They seem to be super people. Will report when package arrives.

    TheSurveyor
    There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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    Wink Will be getting mine next month

    Hello

    I see you guys have placed orders i am getting mine next mnoth so i will be keeping you all up to date on how they perform. And his prices are not bad either i may be dealing with him from now on but it all depends on these three pacckages i am getting in may.

    Tom

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    Has anyone actually ordered from Bolling Bee this year? I know local people close to him are being put on hold this year..
    If you build it they will comb it.<br />Tim Rolan

  17. #17
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    Default Yeah, I ordered five queens

    I ordered five queens due next week, he does not answer his phone, respond to emails, but seemed to have no problems cashing my check, so i assume he still is doing promptness upon incoming cash.

    Chrissy Shaw

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    One should never assume.

    Keith
    Bee Sting Honey - So Good, It Hurts!

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    Big Grin Perhaps my wording should be...

    I know from my checking account balance that the fellow is making it to the bank.

    Chrissy

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    Indeed. FWIW his bees are nice. I got three healthy packages with nice queens from him last year.

    Keith
    Bee Sting Honey - So Good, It Hurts!

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