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  1. #41
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    >I can't believe there was this much talk and no one ever...

    Doesn't a lot of that happen on all these forums?

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    >and no one ever put a candle in the freezer

    I was going to go buy some birthday cake candles and put one in the freezer and one on the table and time how long they burn. Then I realized, how would I know when the candle in the feezer stopped burning?
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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    >Buuuusuuuukeeee!

    Now isn't that a fun word? [img]smile.gif[/img]
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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    Bill, you just aren't going to let this die are you?

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    Now, you posted three times since my last one....in April.
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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    Jim is my hero
    \"You\'ve got to stop beating up your women because you can\'t find a job, because you didn\'t want to get an education and now you\'re (earning) minimum wage.\"<br /><br />-Bill Cosby

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    Bill, everyone knows birthday candles are parafin and don't count so stop trying to stir up trouble. Besides the candles would run out of air in the Freezer and your experiment would be void. Don't make Dick and I have to come to your house and pull the cord on you CPU. There comes a time when every good thread must come to an end. That was many post ago for this one!

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    Maybe there's a market for beeswax birthday candles.

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    &gt; Maybe there's a market for beeswax birthday candles.

    Actually, there is a market of sorts.

    When I was a small boy, my parents would put
    "trick candles" on my birthday cakes.
    They could be blown out, but would re-light
    themselves and need to be blown out again.
    And again, and again... (It may sound like
    a cruel way to frustrate birthday wishes, but
    I assure you that it was great fun for all.
    Times were simpler then, and we were highly
    entertained by such simple shenanigans.)

    Modern versions of these candles just don't
    work as well as the old-style candles, so
    I've made my own from time to time, using
    the proper magic ingredient, magnesium.
    You have to fiddle with it, but you can
    get a candle that relights itself after a
    few seconds of being "out" without much
    trouble if you measure with care and keep
    a notebook.

    (The trick is to soak the wick in a magnesium
    solution. NEVER add magnesium to the wax
    unless you want flares suitable for military
    assaults or search and rescue work!)

    My pseudo-nieces and pseudo-nephews all love 'em.

    Now, the reason that I mention this is that
    I also use magnesium in church tapers for
    a few drafty churches who request them. No one
    likes to see a candle go out in the middle
    of a church service, do they? Some might think
    it a very very bad omen. Such candles are
    "bulletproof", in that they simply cannot be
    blown out by even a strong breeze for more
    than a few moments. And if someone sees a
    candle go out, and then relight itself, just
    what might they think?

    The only hack required is to glue small sponges
    to the inside tops of the bell-shaped snuffers
    used by ushers/altar boys to snuff out the candles
    at the end of the service, and instruct them to
    wet the sponges before snuffing the candles.

    ...and of course I use pure beeswax - did
    you think I would go out and buy paraffin?

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    awesome, i'll be happy to hear the results myself!
    \"You\'ve got to stop beating up your women because you can\'t find a job, because you didn\'t want to get an education and now you\'re (earning) minimum wage.\"<br /><br />-Bill Cosby

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    Your statistics are quite impressive. You did not include, however, the number of smart-alec wisecracks from the sidelines. How many of those were there?

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    Dick, I SWEAR I did not put him up to this.

    I am, however, waiting in bated anticipation.
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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    I'd offer to help, but I've been burning the
    candle at both ends during a few days of good
    apiary-work weather, and need a rest.

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    &gt; Let the debates begin.

    The basic act of lighting a candle has
    been a subject of divergent views for
    quite some time.

    Psalm 18:28
    "For thou wilt light my candle: the Lord my
    God will enlighten my darkness."

    Job 18:6
    "The light shall be dark in his tabernacle,
    and his candle shall be put out with him."

    Revelation 22:5
    "...and they need no candle, neither light of the
    sun; for the Lord God giveth them light..."

    But it is better to light a candle than to
    curse the debate.

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    Bullseye your some dead meat mister!!! Searcher, of course you weighed the candles and also burned a control group seperately, didn't you!? If not scientific methodolgy wasn't used and you should start over again. No cheap outs on this thread! I would suggest instead of the using the freezer, which may not necessarily have the same atmospheric conditions from 1 space to another due to ice build up, other items in the freezer, and the effect of opening the door to get brocolli for supper, and drive the candles to Dicks house in say, December. I here the AlCan is nice that time of year. After keeping them outside for a week, bring them in, weigh them, develop a formula to account for weight difference defference, and then report the results. Then and only the will we know!

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    Searcher, I am in staring disbelief.
    I am in awe of you enthusiasm.
    Your act of dedication will go down in the annals of the Tailgater Forum.

    You even made me get out the dictionary. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    We need a ballad deplicting your noble persuit of knowledge!

    So. I understand that a candle kept in a frozen environment will burn longer than one that is at room temperature?
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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    &gt; ...burned a control group seperately, didn't you!?

    Yes he did. He had a frozen candle, and a
    non-frozen candle as his control. He was testing
    for one variable, the freezing of the candle.

    A perfectly valid methodology, although a very
    limited data set, to be sure.

    &gt; ...drive the candles to Dicks house...

    That would only complicate things. Latitude
    change, minor quantum space-time effects, and
    worst of all, getting the candle in one piece
    over that so-called "highway" they have up there.

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    "The Alaska Highway
    winding in and winding out
    fills my mind with serious doubt
    as to whether "the lout"
    who planned this route
    was going to hell or coming out!"

    - Retired Sergeant Troy Hise

    (written while he was stationed at Summit Lake, Historical Mile 392)

    The last time I drove that highway was in ‘73. Back then most of it was gravel, except for a few miles on either side of Whitehorse. Since then it’s been paved and from what I hear it’s pretty decent to drive.

    Bring those candles on up here.

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    Searcher sent me a private email a couple of weeks back telling me some travelers would be headed North To Alaska and asked me where the candles should be delivered. I replied back giving him my street address if they make it this way.

    Bullseye Bill in some of his smart-ass remarks about conducting candle experiments here in Alaska may have given some the impression that Alaska is a vast sheet of ice. That isn't the case. We have four seasons here just the same as the rest of you folks down there in 'America' do. You have fall, winter, spring, summer. We have Almost Winter, Winter, Still Winter, Construction Season. Right now we are in Construction Season. So it will be a while before I can get to the candle experiment up here, but if they show up, I promise to freeze 'em and burn 'em and post the results.

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    &gt;Bullseye Bill in some of his smart-ass remarks...

    Hey! I resemble that remark!

    &gt;We have four seasons here just the same as the rest of you folks down there in 'America' do.

    I would dearly love to see that for myself, so I could remove that illusion of a vast frozen wastland. Someday I'll get to see those mosquitos that are as large as a hummingbirds.
    Bullseye Bill in The Scenic Flint Hills , KS
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