In the recent debate over production comparisons between TBH's and Lang's, another question came to mind.

For those of you with experience running both systems simultaneously, can you comment on over-wintering survival rates between the two production systems?

Dennis made excellent comments related to a concept that is all too often under-emphasized in most agricultural systems, and that is the idea of "economic" yield vs. total yield. In the recent posts regarding production differences, I seem to remember little said regarding losses, which would tend to have an impact of "economic" yield.