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    where are the PDF 'Box Joint" files? i don't see/find them on the list of designs. thanks in advance.

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    Look up "Using dado to cut box joints for hive bodies" under Bee Forum.

    Try that link there is a discussion and links on Box Joints. I had trouble finding that file myself but someone posted it there.

    I'd give you the link but I can't figure out how to put the link here!

    Dan

    [This message has been edited by dtwilliamson (edited June 16, 2004).]

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    Last edited by honeyman46408; 11-18-2012 at 07:18 AM.

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    Hello filmmlif et al,
    Here I go again. I too tried to build boxes with the fingerjoints but my cheep table saw did not allow me to install a dado blade. So I decided to use my router and a dovetail jig to make my boxes. The proof is in the pudding and so my boxes are now two years old,only glued and hold up very well. The other advantage is that with this dovetailing you are cutting a complete corner at a time and it also does not require subsequent trimming. Maybe you want to try it too, I am convinced. Take care and have fun.

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    I'm not sure why, but when I go to that file is says it isn't available, do any members have this boxjoint PDF file they have saved they could send, or does anyone know where it can be downloaded? Thanks guys

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Sorry guys, I just found a link to this through yahoo search, here it is

    http://www.beesource.com/files/boxjoint.pdf

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Cantacuzene View Post
    The other advantage is that with this dovetailing you are cutting a complete corner at a time and it also does not require subsequent trimming.
    I agree with this suggestion. I find cutting the joints for my boxes to be much faster on a dovetail jig than using box joints.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    I'm not a wood worker (just learning)
    Can you do dovetails with a tablesaw? Or router only

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    With a router you will need a dovetail jig. If you do it on a table saw you are not saving anything so you might as well just go box joint.

    With the router and a jig you cut both pieces of a corner at one time. very fast and perfectly matched.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Cabinet makers used to cut them by hand, but that is way out of my league. I use a dovetail jig and a router.

    This is the jig that I use: http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-4...etail+jig+4210
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Good deal, thanks for the info

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Quote Originally Posted by ralittlefield View Post
    Are you cutting dovetail or box joints with this?

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Quote Originally Posted by DonShackelford View Post
    dovetail or box joints with this?
    I cut half blind dovetails. I am able to cut both boards of one joint with one pass of the router. Also, with the half blind dovetail less end grain is exposed.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Thanks for the info Ralph,

    I just ordered the 4212 which includes box and dovetail jigs for $128 with free shipping.

    http://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.c...ducts/4212.asp

    Don

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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Quote Originally Posted by DonShackelford View Post
    Thanks for the info Ralph,

    I just ordered the 4212 which includes box and dovetail jigs for $128 with free shipping.
    That is about the price of a decent dado blade, so it makes sense to me. I think that you will be happy with it.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    It's $148 bucks now! I'll stick with box joints on the table saw BUT I hope it goes on sale again. Nice reason to buy more tools!
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    You can always hope for an after Christmas sale.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Got a blue Wood stock from Grizzly. Destroyed two templates so far, went back and got their recommended bit, still could not get it to work. Went back and purchases a guide block set for the other option, still could not get it to work. Every time I called tech support they had me buy something else so it is nice the kit come s complete. Let me know if you can make yours work. I went back to rabbets for the drawers and captive rabbets for the fronts of the drawers on my dressers. Maybe not a high speed bee box producer but I would like to see what you guys think of the PC for other projects.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    Quote Originally Posted by minz View Post
    I would like to see what you guys think of the PC for other projects.
    I just made some 9"X12" wood boxes for the congregation at church to deposit Christmas cards in. They came out fine.
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    Default Re: PDF "box Joint' file

    A question for you box joint experts;

    I have been using rabbit joints so far. I first make the 3/8x5/8 frame rest rabbit, then do the sides.

    Using a box joint, does the frame rest rabbit have to be done with a router after assembly?

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