bee blower

[odfrank]

Escape boards - double lifting. One of my hives has 11 mediums on it.......

[John Seets]

Oh, I get it now:

Beekeepers should not use bee blowers to avoid the "alledged" bee carnage.

They should buy YOUR product "Bee-Quick".

Let's see. Things on my list NOT to buy:

There's Bee-Quick.
Then there's Bee-Quick.
And oh yes, there's Bee-Quick.

[jfischer]

> Oh, I get it now:
> Beekeepers should not use bee blowers to
> avoid the "alledged" bee carnage.

> They should buy YOUR product "Bee-Quick".
> Let's see. Things on my list NOT to buy:
> There's Bee-Quick.
> Then there's Bee-Quick.
> And oh yes, there's Bee-Quick.

Sorry, John, I only noticed your post today.
I thought that the horse had been beaten
well past death and into a mushy pulp, and
with it, your argument.

"Alledged"? Oh, you meant "alleged",
as in claimed. Wow, I thought we discussed
that calmly before.

I'm surprised at the vitriolic nature of
the post, given the utter lack of any shred
of fact offered in support of the claim made.
Granted, allegations of this kind are typically
written out in longhand in crayon over 60 or 70
densely spaced pages, but I had hoped for at
least speculation as to how your methodology in
doing an "open field tarp test", if it ever was
actually ever done, might have somehow avoided
the specific drawbacks I pointed out.

But I can offer a few points:

1) I don't care what you, or anyone else do.
I have kept bees and mentored beekeepers
long enough to realize that beekeepers are
stubborn and perverse about doing what THEY
think best, moreso in the face of clear and
compelling evidence that their approach is
suboptimal, or doing tangible harm.

2) So, to each his own. They will anyway.

3) I don't care if anyone ever buys Bee-Quick.
I don't get any of the money, the Eastern
Apicultural Society Bee Research Fund gets
all the money.

4) The tenor of the post forces me to ask if
you presently under a Court order forcing you to
post a Warning notice in your yard, directing you
to attend Anger Management courses, expecting you
to keep a certain distance away from one or more
people, and/or requiring you to find gainful employment.

Heck, if ya woulda been nice, I woulda sent you a few bottles
to try for free. But you have clearly established yourself
as a dedicated harvesting blow hard.

nb: By "blow hard" I mean no insult, I only
attempt to define "200MPH" as overkill for
any use of a blower, which is a fine way
to harvest honey if you are far away from
civilians, and want to work harder than you
otherwise might, do more lifting than you
need to, and subject yourself to excessive
loud noise and exhaust fumes.


[This message has been edited by jfischer (edited September 06, 2004).]

[John Seets]

Ref. Item 4:

Oh, I think the one "warning notice" already posted in VA is plenty.

[Oxankle]

JFischer;

No bee parts at least this year. I did find one drowned bee in the filter but he flew into the extractor instead of flying to the kitchen window or the patio door. I got into the house with perhaps two dozen bees.

I have so few hives that my experience would be a miniscule part of any study, but I still believe that a blower is a safe way to remove bees from supers. Just don't hold the blower against their little butts, hold it out a ways. Blow them up into the air, not against a wall or the ground.

Is it possible that you are blowing a lot of already dead bees out of your supers? When I blow bees out they go out like badminton birds, catch themselves in mid-air a few feet out and fly back to the hive.

Also, is it possible that the time when you extract can make a difference? I usually extract July 4th or later. Generally not a lot of young bees about. If there were many young non-flying bees in the supers would it be possible that more would be lost?
Oxankle

[mark williams]

Sorry just noticed this post today,& didn't tie the name of jfisher until latly,that you are the same that makes Bee-Quick,I remove alot of Bees from house's & that stuff is a life saver to me,we take a smoker without the smoke place a rag in the smoker with Bee-Quick on it.puff it into cracks & places the bees hide run's them out quick.(hard to use smoke inside a customer's house),I also use it to clear honey super's .So Mr.Fisher my hats off to you for making a fine product.also a lot lighter than a bee blower,smell's good too,hehe.>>>>Mark