Hi Joelz,
Reference your reply of 21Dec01, 02:48,
ok dee ill refrain from your style of mane calling, you are trying to market your solution to the mite problem in the u.s. and anyone who disagrees with you are ignorant loudmouths, i hope all beginning beekeeprs who read this will assume that also,
Reply:
First of all, I am not trying to market my solution in the USA. I am trying to market it worldwide. Herein is the difference.
Anyone who disagrees with me is not an ignorant loudmouth, But it will be a conversaton with exact references keeping to subject matter and not comparing apples to oranges concepts. This means keeping to a natural system of beekeeping concerning foundations and bee breeding, and yes there are vast differences in behaviour between the two in the field.
You further wrote:
you have proven beyond any doubt i have had that you are a master beekeeper and how can i purchase a bottle of your organic formula to protect my bees??
Reply:
There is no organic formula for bees Joelz. You especially, if a masterbeekeeper should already know that. Field work is hard and labor intensive and short fix gimmicky just does not solve problems. It's like a bandage on an open wound, hoping it heals, when sometimes it doesn't.
The biological formula you talk about requires proper diet of honey and pollen for bees. It requires regression to natural workerbrood cell sizing, to that in effect prior to sizing upwards in search of better bees with longer tongues for larger honey crops. It also requires a change in the way bee breeding is looked at, especially getting away from inbreeding that no animal on earth naturally does long and survives on an evolutionary trail forward.
You further replied:
its really funny the chemicals used in mite supression are usda approved is yours??
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Reply:
Actually, we went to the USDA Western region in the mid 1980s, and originally were under contract with the USDA/ARS for doing much of what we have done.In the beginning we worked with the Tucson Bee Lab, but then the project stopped because no one was assigned there that could do the work required and so we continued on our own. Yes it is funny chemicals are approved, but then you must have approval to apply dopes of various kinds. As for the biological, you must ask for it under law to be allowed to do it. Then under federal law it must be given to you upon request. Then they don't have to show you how to do it. Just make the information available. The ketch is no one is told they are to ask for the biological.
Being published with Apiacta with the world beekeeping federation makes then, this material available to those asking for it. Since most don't it isn't given, nor forced.
As most want chemicals, that is taught.
But that doesn't make biological wrong.It is something that is hard to teach in class for each region is slightly different, though basically the same. Also, it involves going back to old style beekeeping with unlimited broodnests. This is a style that used to be taught by the USDA back in the 1970s. Today, other methods unfortunately are taught. Perhaps you should bring this up and maybe get the masterbeekeepers course updated or changed to accomodate the biological side and old style beekeeping with unlimited broodnests. Evidently from what you say the course is slighted towards the petro chemical solution side. This I think is wrong, for it teaches fast quick and a road to hell and slow death for beehives, that in the long run, must make the conversion back to natural parameters to survive.
Regards,
Dee A. Lusby