Well i just got back from a 3 day trip on motorcycles through the mountain of NC. went to a tour of the vanderbilt forestry school and seen a small field of seedling planted and the goldenrods were in full bloom and there was about 1000 little ladys working it to death, averaged 3-4 a bush (goldenrod) , im glad to see there are still some health hives in the mountains. me and my wife got left by the tour while we were watching the gals working lol. had a good time.