MB: But, I really think extractors are overrated. Crush and drain isn't that bad of a method, is much cheaper and about the same amount of work.
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Micheal could you explain the crush and drain method. I have not purchased an extractor yet (My wifes birhtday is coming up, maybe Bill would like to buy MY wife an extractor ), and if this method is easier, cheaper, and works as well I might consider it for the first year honey harvest. I should add that all my foundation is plastic with wax coating.