Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    North Salem, NY
    Posts
    329

    Post

    i have three hives ready for bees to move in on the 8th of may. problem is keeping the carpenter ants from moving in. i sprayed a ring on the cinder blocks that the hives sit on with ant and roach killer, but they didnt care. they still set up shop in one of my hives. (two are used, the third hive is new, so has no honey or sugar residues on it) i smoked the heck out of this hive and killed the ants, and then torched the cracks where eggs were by pumping the smoker till flames came out the end and used this as a blow torch. then i closed up the hive, except for the outer cover, and puffed mad amounts of smoke in there, to hide the smell of the sugar and honey inside. this deterred the bees, but they then set up shop next door. i repeated the whole ensemble for this hive, and then smoked the heck out of the third hive as well, before the ants would take a liking to this one as well. what do you all do to keep ants out of your hives? we'll see if the smoke works to mask the smells of food from the ants. i plan to air out the hives well before the bees come. is this all that would be needed, or will the bees now no longer want to live in these hives? should have thought of this sooner

    oh, by the way, the frames with comb were not smoked with the hives, but were brought inside into a cold cellar, where they are stacked so the air can get at them. i have not seen a bug in this cellar for years, so i think the combs will be fine for a few weeks till the bees come, but i will check on them just to make sure.

    sorry the post is so long. those of you who got this far, thank you! and those who reply, i thank you all the more!!

    justgojumpit

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    North Salem, NY
    Posts
    329

    Post

    can anyone help me? I'm really at a loss here!

    thanks,

    justgojumpit

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Nehawka, Nebraska USA
    Posts
    45,925

    Post

    >i have three hives ready for bees to move in on the 8th of may. problem is keeping the carpenter ants from moving in. i sprayed a ring on the cinder blocks that the hives sit on with ant and roach killer, but they didnt care.

    I wouldn't have done that. It's still poisonious to the bees and you KNOW they will land on those blocks.

    >they still set up shop in one of my hives. (two are used, the third hive is new, so has no honey or sugar residues on it) i smoked the heck out of this hive and killed the ants, and then torched the cracks where eggs were by pumping the smoker till flames came out the end and used this as a blow torch. then i closed up the hive, except for the outer cover, and puffed mad amounts of smoke in there, to hide the smell of the sugar and honey inside. this deterred the bees

    Ants?

    >but they then set up shop next door. i repeated the whole ensemble for this hive, and then smoked the heck out of the third hive as well, before the ants would take a liking to this one as well. what do you all do to keep ants out of your hives? we'll see if the smoke works to mask the smells of food from the ants.

    Why not just run the ants out just before you put the bees in. It will happen in a few days anyway, right? Then the bees will keep them out after that.

    >i plan to air out the hives well before the bees come. is this all that would be needed, or will the bees now no longer want to live in these hives?

    The smoke won't matter one way or the other to the bees, espically if it's not fresh.

    >should have thought of this sooner
    oh, by the way, the frames with comb were not smoked with the hives, but were brought inside into a cold cellar, where they are stacked so the air can get at them. i have not seen a bug in this cellar for years, so i think the combs will be fine for a few weeks till the bees come, but i will check on them just to make sure.

    I think you worry too much. I'd just wait until the bees arrive. Use a bee brush and run the ants out and put the bees in. If you really want to "smoke" the ants out use loose tobaco like Top or Bugler. Take an empty toilet paper tube and fill the end with a wad of toilet papaer, then fill the rest with tobacco. Put that in you smoker and smoke the hive heavily and you'll kill the ants. Another temporary solution is to use tobacco to get the ants out by sprinkling it on the ants and the eggs etc. Then sweep all the tobacco out before you put the bees in.


    sorry the post is so long. those of you who got this far, thank you! and those who reply, i thank you all the more!!



  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    North Salem, NY
    Posts
    329

    Post

    thanks so much for the reply!

    so now those cinder blocks that i sprayed poison on... if i spray-paint them before the bees come, they should be alright correct? i dont want to poison my bees!

    otherwise i'll go get new ones. there are only six anyway, and are currently on sale at home depot (or were when i got them anyways)

    thanks,

    justgojumpit

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Nehawka, Nebraska USA
    Posts
    45,925

    Post

    >thanks so much for the reply!
    so now those cinder blocks that i sprayed poison on... if i spray-paint them before the bees come, they should be alright correct? i dont want to poison my bees!

    I'd just wash them with soap and water. That should be good enough.

    >otherwise i'll go get new ones. there are only six anyway, and are currently on sale at home depot (or were when i got them anyways)

    I wouldn't buy new ones. Just wash them off. You will need some for the lids, at least around here I do. Just bricks isn't enough here. I've had the lids blow off or even had the hives blow over with just bricks on them. Yesterday was one of those days. Blew a bunch of my shingles off my roof too.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    North Salem, NY
    Posts
    329

    Post

    the ants are back!!!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Fredericksburg, Va
    Posts
    796

    Post

    I had a problem with ant in one hive and found a solution in the stand construction. I made a hive stand by cutting 16 inch long 4x4 stock for legs - then framed top of stand using 5 ft and 20 inch decking boards. I make dado cuts in tops of 4x4s so top skirting would have good support. I then placed each foot of the stand in a 3 lb coffee can and put in a little water. No more ant problem. The 5 ft length provides space for 2 hives with space for working.

    My first stand was just all treated lumber left unfinished. My wife now insist that I paint every thing.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Vista, CA, USA
    Posts
    7

    Post

    Ants are a huge problem where I live. I also use custom hive stands with 2x4's as legs. I put two hives on each stand. Each leg sits in a deli-cup filled with vegetable oil. That way the rain doesn't wash it away.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Ads