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    of course, depending on where you live in the US, when are the prime times to make nucs? I would say, for this part of Oregon and SW Washington, April and May would be a great time.

    I plan... I hope... to make my last split of the year tomarrow. I have a queen ready to go.

    when is it "too late" to make a nuc and have it survive during the winter?
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    Now one frame is good with a good queen but,3 frames are best.The later in the year,ya just add another frame of young.The later yet,add another.We here are wintering good solid 5 frame nooks,no problem .Take one frame honey and bees,1capt brood,one larvae and eggs,shake the bees on the lid in there,feed,yew will have 2 hies in 6 weeks.
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    If you want to make a split and get honey, then I'd do the split two weeks before the flow. That's the last week in May, here. Put all the open brood in the split and leave all the capped brood in the original hive. You'll get a split AND more honey than if you didn't do the split. And you can let them raise their own queen at a time that it won't hurt production at all.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    What's the rationale for your recommended separation of open and capped brood? Does the queen stay in the original hive?

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    If I split two weeks before the flow wont they still be in the nuc or should I move them to a deep? Its bee about two weeks that I made my first split and it is still in the nuc. Granting it has had some problems but still.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    If I split two weeks before the flow wont they still be in the nuc or should I move them to a deep? Its bee about two weeks that I made my first split and it is still in the nuc. Granting it has had some problems but still.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    >What's the rationale for your recommended separation of open and capped brood?

    The original hive is the one you hope to get a crop from. By doing the split at the perfect time (two weeks before the flow) and removing the bees that require feeding and caring for (the open brood) you free up nurse bees for the harvest. By leaving the CAPPED brood in the original hive these bees will emerge and quickly be recruited for the harvest. By giving the split the open brood and the honey/pollen they are free to raise bees to build up a colony.

    >Does the queen stay in the original hive?

    You can do it either way. I like to put the queen with the new split and let the original hive be queenless while they raise a queen. Just make sure there's some eggs in the original hive. You can also buy a queen when you do this split and put the new queen in the original hive.

    >If I split two weeks before the flow wont they still be in the nuc or should I move them to a deep?

    The new split will not make a crop. The old one will. The new split will just make bees and build up a colony to get through the winter. You can put the new one in whatever size boxes it fits in with all the open brood and all the stores.

    The whole trick is the timing. If I were planning to do splits, this is when I would plan to do them. If the thy to swarm sooner, I might do some sooner.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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