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    A friend and I are working on some hive management software. I am a hobbyist and can't see spending $400-$600 for software to manage my hives. For that reason, we are working on a program to manage our hives. It will be scaleable to fit the needs of 1-2 hives all the way up to ???? hives. Preliminary estimates are around $50 for the program.

    What I need, is to know what everyone would like to see in the program. What information do YOU track for your hives. I currently track the hive progress, harvest information and bloom dates. I do not mess with queen rearing, but would like to include this feature in the software.

    Please post your wants here so I can begin to build the software. Any other inquiries can be IM'ed or emailed to me.

    Thank you in advance for the information and suggestions.
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    I would like to see what kind of queen currently is in the hive, if it is marked or not, WHEN the queen was interduced, what type, if any, meds are being used, why type of feeding is being used, statues on capped brood, eggs, ect.

    I would be interested in buying this program. When do you all plan on having it done?
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    Also, I would like to know the statues of how many deeps and supers it has on it. You can do this using pictures. I can send you an example through email on the journal that I made on the computer. What is your email?
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    It would also be handy if there were the ability to note which yard the hives are in, and position in the yard, and some type of tracking ability. So you could look at a hive and see which yard it is in, where it was before, and possibly a reason why it is there.

    Also a field to note journal entries per hive, so with "a simple click of the mouse" you could compile all notes and actions on one particular hive from x date to x date (present).

    Jon D.

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    My email is hillshivery@verizon.net.

    Hoping to have it ready within a couple weeks.
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    Hey Chef....... Clear your mailbox... It's full and you are unable to get messages.

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    Sundance:

    ok, i cleaned it all out. Sorry for that!

    Hill: I will email you the copy right now. Take a look at the info and the drawinings on the right side. That would be cool to have,
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    Ability to track queens by their number (if marked as such), their mothers number and year/month they were raised.

    Ability to track all the factors one may want for a breeding/selection program ( See http://www174.pair.com/birdland/Breeding/NWC.html for a good idea.)

    -Tim

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    Besides the basic data, several fully customizable fields, so anyone would be able to track what (s)he likes.

    I, for example, would like to track the hive's gross and net weight. That implies recording all the components of each hive and knowing their weight too.

    Multiple apiaries.

    Customizable (basic) charts and reports.

    A task scheduler, with recurrent events and a reminder.

    Temperatures and precipitations? (I'wouldn't track that, but maybe others would find it useful to compare bloom dates and harvestings in time.)

    Optional metric system pleeeeeeeease.

    File of labels and messages so the program can be easily translated to other languages.

    Just some quick thoughts...
    Did you say a couple of years???? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    Good job!

    João

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    also a place where you can keep track of weather
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    <Customizable /basic/ charts and reports.>

    Printable with one click.

    Hawk
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    How bout a field for customers buying queens or packages.Name ,number wanted,date wanted,cost quoted,phone number,address,date shipped.
    Just a thought....
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    oooh ooh drag and drop icons that represent supers, meds, marked queen, like a drawing program but with fixed icons...and labeling numbers/letters like I can label hive 1, or A.

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    I want a program that will lift the boxes for me, tell me if it's queenless, and rob the hives. [img]smile.gif[/img]
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    I'd like to see a web-based system with a thin client front end. Written in perl with an open source database like Mysql on the server. That way, you could access your data even when you're aboard your yacht in the Virign Islands, or at work [img]smile.gif[/img]

    Operating system independent i.e., nothing Microsoft-specific. With a calendar and date functions so you could keep track of stuff on a hive-by-hive and apiary-by-apiary basis, for example, when you last checked a hive, when you should look again, etc. And automated weather downloads- basic information like temperatures, RH, winds, etc. on a per-apiary basis. Those could be snarfed off a NWS site, no reason for each beekeeper to become an amateur meteorologist or waste their time collecting information already available.

    That's just the beginning.

    &gt;&gt;I want a program that will lift the boxes for me, tell me if it's queenless, and rob the hives.

    That's what the drag-n-drop icons are for Michael-you sit there dragging and dropping icons and the field force of apiary grunts does the actual work, pulling supers, assessing hive, getting and sending updates to/from the server via sattelite, position info via GPS, etc. Of course, there's be real-time video so you could see what's going on.

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    Hills. Check out beekeeper pro. It is as close to perfect as I've seen, about 400 bucks.

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    You are right Joel.. it is a nice program... even the hobby version is good...

    but.........

    one thing it really lacks is a journal. It would be nice if a program could feature a journal page for each visit to each hive.

    I imagen something like this...

    you open up a program, see the different things you can choose from. Like Beepro... use the tools to set up a NEW hive. Than from there, after setting up all of your hives, you can simply fill out a journal type entry depending on what type of visit you did to your hive. For example, if I was to go through the whole hive, looked for eggs and brood like I do in the Spring, than I would fill out an extended form (for example) or if I was there to check up on the top super and see if I need to add another, I would simply fill out a "quick visit" form.

    This is what I currently do with my system. I have an extended form for envolved visits and I also have a "quick visit" form for thos quick visits.

    Beekeeping Pro is good but very expensive.
    Chef Isaac..Culinary Arts and Honey are a sweet mix! http://www.sweetascanbeehoneyfarm.com & http://www.adoptahive.info

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    How about a windows-explorer-like view, with a navigation section down one side, with expandable/collapsable subfolders. I think that made sense. a system of folders and subfolders, like

    apiary #1 --&gt; hive #1 --&gt; 05/07/05 inspection --&gt; Brood Boxes --&gt; brood box #1 --&gt; notes

    and so on

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    Yes, the journal is extremely important. We kept Journals from 1989 through 1998 and I still go back and refer to them. The windows explorer idea is great for most of us also as it is how we are us to working.

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    http://www.bee-l.com/bulletinboard/g...ord%20Book.mdb

    The link above is to a database right here on this site can you improve on this one. I just asked Barry to update the file with an improved one. This database is free to anyone who wants to use it, change it or improve it all I ask is that it be shared with everyone.
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