I like the idea of a double wide brood box and the idea of not having to lift it.
Are there any plans out there? Any down side to this?? What other pluses are there if any?
I have only made one so far, see it here:
Sorry, my site is a work in progress, I still have a lot of pictures to post and editing to do.
I didn't have any plans to go by, I just winged it. Mine is made to fit double medium PermaComb frames. I'll have those pictures posted soon too. They are two medium frames that are welded together to form a twelve inch deep frame. There are slats running paralell to them about two inches below. Then about an inch below that is a screen, and below that about one inch is a sliding cleanout tray.
The use of queen excluders is a must to keep her out of the medium honey boxes above. Above the stack I use an inner cover with a top entrance, and a two piece telescoping cover on top.
The brood box holds nineteen frames on nine frame spacers. The only problem I had this year is that they got honeybound and did not want to expand horizonaly. I had to expand for them by manipulating the frames. They filled eleven frames in the brood.
The entrance slot is covered with a stainless steel mouse guard. That is a problem, I will have to change that so I can treat them with oxalic acid.
Oh, yeah, I should mention that they gave me four mediums of honey too!
[This message has been edited by BULLSEYE BILL (edited September 29, 2004).]
Here are some discussions of long hives: http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000219.html http://www.beesource.com/eob/condo/index.htm http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000210.html http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000440.html http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000024.html http://www.beesource.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000122.html
Some pictures of my long deep. I am doing this as a medium now with top bars. Click on the thumnails for more pictures. http://www.beesource.com/eob/althive/bush/index.htm
Here are some pictures of some long mediums. http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bush/bush_bees.htm
I also have a double wide Dadant Deep (22 frames 32 1/2" by 19 7/8"). I built a triple wide (48 3/4") like the mediums in the pictures, but I haven't used it. The double wide seems about as much as the bees want for a Dadant deep. At least the one I have hasn't quite filled it out yet.
I think my first year I will stick with the "standard" set up.
At the auction I got 18 deeps, 10 mediums, 5 new unassembled shallows, bottom boards and covers. All with frames and comb. A Standard Churn 4 frame extractor, Pierce hot knife, cold knife, 3 new drone/queen traps, ABC/XYZ 1959 printing, 5 cases of foundation, all for $85.00!!! It also had an older Woodman Smoker but I gave it to a commercial beekeeper at the auction who let me pick his brain.
During te winter I will be building more mediums (not sure how many is needed)
I am going to go against wisdom and start with 8 or 9 colonies. At 50 I have to accelerate the process a bit.......
I am reading like a mad dog and viewing this site regularly. I know that this is no substitute for experience, but its the best and only process I have.
A big thanks to Michael and all for their patience and unbounding knowledge.
Here is a picture of one of my frames for my double medium PC.
Thanks for pics Bullseye.........
My first year I will run 9 hives with double deeps as brood. The following year I plan on running a few of the long hives.
Take care all.....