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  1. #1
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    one of my 2 sets of splits from 2 weeks ago swarmed today.

    The good part is -I managed to get it into a box and dumped them into a hive with 3 frames of drawn foundation. All appears to be go - they look to be settling in - keeping my fingers crossed. They were in a cedar tree about 10 ft off the ground. I did put on a hood and veil just in case but was dressing in only tshirt and no gloves.

    I was wondering if it would be better to just keep the 5'th hive or wait a bit and try to recombine.

    Also, with all the extra space I gave them when doing the split I was surprised they swarmed so soon. Hope others don't.


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    You can stop them leaving again by putting a frame of uncapped brood in there. They're not nearly as likely to leave when they have brood to tend to. If you don't have a frame of brood to give them, at least slap some feed on them (that may help them stay in place but no guarantee).

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    You can also put an excluder on the bottom board in "includer" position so the queen can't leave. You can remove it after they have some open brood.

  4. #4
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    Put the queen excluder (includer) on last night. They are feeding ok today and things look good.

    However, I had another swarm today from my splits. These are 40 ft up a very large oak tree. I had two swarms use the same limb two years ago and I lost both of those. I will see tomorrow if my other bait boxes will help. my wife vetoed the idea of chain sawing the tree.

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    Have you thought of getting a taller ladder and rubbing the spots up there with some clorox or lysol?

    Also maybe put some swarm lure down in a low spot on the tree. Or make some queen juice (drop all your old, unwanted, culled virgins etc. into a jar of alcohol) and put it on a CONVENIENT limb? Or a piece of Bee Boost and a swarm lure stapled down low? Or some bait boxes in that tree?

    They tend to use the same spots once they leave their smell there.

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    Had not thought of putting the lure in the tree itself. I will try that. I may also try placing a bait box on the side of the tree - make something like a tree stand that the deer hunters use.

    If they are still there later this afternoon I may try using boards to build a ladder onto side of tree and go up and cut the limb.

    Thanks for the idea!

  7. #7
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    Evidently they did not like my bait boxes. They left sometime this afternoon. I had seen scout bees checking out the bait boxes all morning. Guess I need a new real estate agent.

    I did place a lure on a lower branch but idea of cleaning the old spot will not work - if I could get up there I would have put them into boxes. The place they are settling on is 40 ft off the ground and at the end of a long limb so it is not accessable from the main tree trunk area.

    It is always depressing when the swarms just fly away - even if I already have all the hives I need.

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    Try using Lenom grass oil in your swarm box.

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