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  1. #1
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    I have a SBB and have been checking it weekly for mites, I also inspect my bees and larve. I am extremely happy to say that I have not seen any so far. Although I was wonderign if that was odd?

    Are mites more seasonal, do I have more of a chance to have a problem with them in the fall or spring ?

    I want to get a fogger and use FGMO. Maybe just start using it monthly as a precaution.

    If I use the FGMO when it is warm, do I need to put something in the hive over the winter for the mites, and if so what would that be?

    thank you

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    Hi, I am sure others will respond as well. We are still beginners with two hives and we fog FGMO once a week with the Burgess fogger. We insert a white Formica sheet that is coated with FGMO for a 24 hr check and then take it out again if the weather is hot. Our counts show in the older hive, that has been fogged for over a year, a very small amount of Varroa. This year's hive that has not been fogged much shows a higher count. We expect an increase in counts as summer progresses but we feel that we have control right now. Take care and have fun.

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    i see in the bee keeping catalogue two types of sbb's. one is the shallow kind which seems designed to allow easy insertion of the sticky boards, the other is more of a stand that seems to be disigned for optimum ventilation. which do you use? when do you put the regular one back on for winter? thanks, sarah

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    All of my hives have SSB, which I made. The are 3" tall and have a slot just below the landing area. This allows a flat board to be inserted UNDER the screen. I apply oil to the board and insert it prior to fogging. The following day, I remove the board and count the mites. The rest of the time, I leave the SSB open, all year. I do not fog in the winter.

    Varroa levels typically increase in the fall and it's important to make sure the hive is prepared to go into winter. I saw increased mite numbers this spring, but I usually don't get too excited until fall.

    I think that answers your question(s)

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    I fog once a week with FGMO in a black flag propane fogger. I do not count mites. I think it's a waist of my time since I have them and it will make little difference if I count 2 mites or 100. I have them and just keep fogging. In the spring I make FGMO with thymol in it use that up, during the summer only FGMO, and in the fall FGMO with thymol. It seems to work real well. My hives are thriving. Right now in the fall is your greatest increase in mites. Winter there is no brood at least till Jan. But that depends on you area and when winter starts and how cold it gets. Brood rearing slows down or stops for a period of time then in the spring starts to pick up. If your on a schedule and do it religiously you will have no problems. Good luck.
    Dan

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    dear john and dan, thanks. i ordered some of the sbbs from dadant, since i live in michigan though, i think i will put the regular ones back on in the late fall. you did answer my question. dan, do you wait until night to fog when all the bees are in the hive?
    Last edited by Barry; 07-10-2011 at 03:43 PM.

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    Yes I wait till about 7 PM or so ( actually when I think they are mostly in). I leave my sbb on all winter. I get no ill effects from them. My temps go down to -30F and about 7 feet of snow. It helps in keeping air circulating around the cluster plus it removes moisture. Cold is not the problem it is moisture. I had a long talk with Dr James Tew, State Specialist, Beekeeping, Ohio State University about the sbb and both of us agreed that the moisture is the biggest problem.

    Dan
    PS Forgot to let you look at this site
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    [This message has been edited by bjerm2 (edited July 28, 2004).]

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    dan,i just want to make sure i know what your talking about: your sbb's are like hivestands with a screened bottom instead of wood and not the inset thing you can get to put the sticky paper in? also, if it is the stand, what prevents the mites from crawling back up the sides, through the screen again after they fall out? thanks alot. sarah. p.s, thanks for the mineral oil info.

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    <your sbb's are like hivestands with a screened bottom instead of wood and not the inset thing you can get to put the sticky paper in?>

    Yes. I make my own. The center which is about 2 inches in from the edge of the brood box is all open. The hives are on posts which also rest on cinder blocks. When the mite falls down thru the screen it can not climb back up since is 20 inches down out of the box. The ants or other predators eat them.

    I'll send you a picture when I get home tonight by e-mail if that's ok with you.

    Dan

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    great, dan, thanks alot. sarah

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    I see that you don't have an e-mail address. I'll send this info to work and check there tomorrow, if you e-mail me at work I'll send the info on to you.
    Dan


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