dead bees

[dogman]

I know this is like fixing a car over the phone.
but for the past 2 days bee are pulling bees out of the hive that are still alive and dropping them on the ground where they die. there is no wrestling on the landing board just every couple of minutes 1 or 2 bees drag 1 out and dump them . any Ideas
thanks

[oregonsparkie]

I occasionally see the same thing in my observation hive. The only thing I can think of is the bees are sick or dying and the housekeeping bees are getting rid of them.

[Pugs]

Are they drones being dumped out of the hive? I understand this happens. Males not being needed and all.

Pugs

[dogman]

No they are workers and they seem like they are in good shape as far as the wings but after they get drag out they crawl around a little then die

[This message has been edited by dogman (edited July 30, 2004).]

[Tia]

Tracheal mite?

[dogman]

Have been treating with FGMO & THYMOL and cords since I have hive them.

[BjornBee]

Dogman,
Are you dismissing any possibilities from your use of FGMO and thymol, or are you suggesting added problems in your use of FGMO and thymol?

Whats your mite count?

Have you sent any bees in for T-mite testing?

Are there any secondary mite related virus symptoms showing up?

Are there any possibilities of chemical/pesticide poisoning?

Drones will be starved from lack of feeding before the workers drag them out. Sometimes they are smaller than normal due to this, are you sure they are not drone?

They could have any number of viruses that could keep them from flying, or contributing to the hive in a number of ways. If you eliminated the above items, I would assume the bees know best. If the hive looks normal and healthy in every other way, I would just monitor and learn what you can.

The one thing I would not do, is assume your hive is healthy and/or without mite problems based on your use of FGMO and thymol.

[dogman]

>Whats your mite count?<
have not seen any v mites on the sticky broad test

>Have you sent any bees in for T-mite testing?<
how do you T- mite test?

>Are there any secondary mite related virus symptoms showing up?<
What should I be looking fore

>Are there any possibilities of chemical/pesticide poisoning?<
I really don't know I am in a rural area but it is mostly cattle
> Drones will be starved from lack of feeding before the workers drag them out. Sometimes they are smaller than normal due to this, are you sure they are not drone?< defiantly not drones
Thanks




[This message has been edited by dogman (edited July 31, 2004).]