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  1. #1
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    Hi all
    Q1: can I feed syrup to my hives externally in one central spot?
    Q2: do the bees store the syrup same way as there would honey?
    Q3: I breed queens, how do I get a drone colony going?

    Thanks for your response

  2. #2
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    >I'm so sorry for asking dies questions
    Please do not be sorry for asking questions!

    >In the topic: Feeding Sugar syrup to 30 hives
    Q1: can I feed syrup to my hives externally in one central spot?

    Some people do this. I have tried it and was not pleased with the results. There was a lot of fighting at the central feeder and a lot of robbing started afterwards. Maybe it depends on the time of year, the climate etc. But I have not had any luck doing it myself.

    I like feeders that don't require facing bees to fill them and will hold a reasonable amount. Gallon glass jars on top of the inner cover aren't too bad. If you cut a hole the size of the lid and if you put #8 (8 wires to the inch) hardware cloth under the hole then you can pull off the jar and refill it without facing any bees. That way you don't even have to suit up. Also top feeder plans are in the plans section on this site. These also work well.

    Here's some people who do it: http://www.honeybeeworld.com/misc/syrup/feed.htm http://www.honeybee.com.au/Library/pollen/feedback.html

    Other feeding methods: http://www.beeculture.com/beeculture...ep/96sept2.htm


    >Q2: do the bees store the syrup same way as there would honey?

    The bees convert the sucrose in table sugar the same way they do nectar. It becames the same sugars as honey and as far as the bees are concerned it IS honey. They will store it as honey. Of course it doesn't taste as good to us humans.

    >Q3: I breed queens, how do I get a drone colony going?

    I assume you can buy drone foundation in Australia. You can buy it here and I've seen it for sale in England. A couple of frames of drone foundation is a lot of drones. Just put it in the brood nest of the drone mother you want and she will lay it full. You need to do this about 40 days or more before you want to mate because the drones not only ned to hatch but it takes them some time to reach sexual maturity.



  3. #3
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    If you want to feed externally, do it from a distance. I have fed 20-30 colonies from about 150 yards away using boardman style entrance feeders. The key is to have enough feeders going to not create a frenzy. I had anywhere from 20-30 feeders going at one time with little trouble. As each glass jar emptied I would replace it.

    You do not need the actual feeders, just the jars and lids(of any size) and sit them on two strips of wood cut about 4 inches in length.

    I sat about 8 feeders on a wooden pallet with pollen substitute on a plate in the middle. Seemed to work well.

    I never have puposely tried to raise drones.

  4. #4
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    Cool Michael and Bjorn, on the feeding methods were helpful
    I m going to tray a dripping method same as in a garden. Whit a ¼ Inc pole pipe
    From a 20l tank gravity feed
    I nide to get the brood going for a split.
    In September I got contracts for canola pollinating.
    I got 60 hives + 20 nuke’s and 30 queens in reserve Italian and laigerien
    I want to hit canola whit 100 + hives
    Feeding pollen is a nodder problem
    Do not get me wrong my beekeeping expertise is baste on small scale and
    I nide to get to a comitial scale to be waybill.
    In September I started whit 1 swarm 15 or so I hunted and trapped (feral) I only got
    2 lots off 10 Italian queens from a birder and 1 laigerien hive on lend.
    Any additional input is match appreciated thex
    p.s. my spelling sacks big time sorry English is my 5th languish

  5. #5
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    Wink

    I wish I would have a beekeeper like you in my neighborhood it would save me lots of money for sugar. . …grins…

  6. #6
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    Axtmann I already feeding all my local bee population.
    You know free feed lol.
    Bot it do not meter der are feral and son or later I m going to
    Hunt den doun.
    Mann I got bigger problems!
    2 day’s ago I extracted 5 box off honey and I left it in the garage
    I forgot to put the lid on, can you imagine it 60 hives cam to
    Rob the leftover honey the sky is dark, hora movie I m not skirt
    Bot I will be, wen my better half sees the mass feeding frenzy.
    She is going to have my sorry *** for lunch.
    I told her if she gets to nasty I m going to rqueen her


  7. #7
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    Ive tried external feeding and I feed about 25 gallons at a time it works best in the fall when theres no nectar source and Ive noticed less trouble with robbing.I float branches and stuff in the container it takes alot because you may have 4-5 lbs of bees loading up at once.

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