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  1. #1
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    I was wondering if adding half-a-cup of soy flour or brewer's yearst to my gallon feeding jar 2:1 syrup would be a good-bad-neither idea?

    Read lots about the PATTIES but never about added protein to syrup.

    With my 16 baud AOL connection atleast .

    BTW: If Mr. Michael were to read this, a friend of mine was talking about a couple queens he 'got' from you this year and was wondering what race and background they have?

    Thanks!

    Jalal

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    I have added pollen sub.in the spring to syrupand they seemto take very well.
    I have not done it in the fall.

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    Well, I guess if it adds protein to the syrup it is helping, if they don't reject it that is. They've been doing that with my pollen subs, probly because they are still getting it from somewhere, however I know they arn't getting quite enough.

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    Since the honey stomach is geared for carrying nectar/syrup and pollen is carried on the legs .... I wouldn't think the 2 should be mixed. Bees eat pollen and use it to make royal jelly but I don't think they'd like a shake. (More work to separate the 2 elements)

    dickm

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    Well, I was just thinking from my vast knowledge of research (yea right.) that ... bees emerging from cell stuff themselves with nectar/honey and pollen? figuring this, I have no clue. But I believe they do go for the pollen also, because I remember reading about the protein content in their thorax specifically.

    Not saying anyone is wrong, just intrested in crystal clear perfection in understanding.

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    What was that stuff the USDA came up with not too long ago? Anyone remember?

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    I always read about USDA and bees, blah blah blah. Where can I find the information first hand? Online? Library?

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    Looking for info about USDA and honey bees on line? This will get you started:
    http://msa.ars.usda.gov/la/btn/hbb/

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    >I was wondering if adding half-a-cup of soy flour or brewer's yearst to my gallon feeding jar 2:1 syrup would be a good-bad-neither idea?

    Bad. Winter stores need to be without solids in them or the bees will get dysentary.

    >Read lots about the PATTIES but never about added protein to syrup.

    I never had any luck with patties. I generaly put some real pollen or reall pollen mixed with substitute out in an empty hive and let the bees find it themselves. But pollen and nectar are two different things to bees and are stored seperately and used seperately.

    >BTW: If Mr. Michael were to read this, a friend of mine was talking about a couple queens he 'got' from you this year and was wondering what race and background they have?

    They are from survivor feral bees around here. They are doing well against the mites and they have a good sense of timing for Northern climates. That's all I know about them.

    Michael

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    nice,

    sounds like a good enough answer to me. the substitute you do mix with pollen, is it home-made? soy flour, brewer's yeast, powdered skim milk, blah blah blah? or bought?

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    I have just bought pollen substitute from Brushy Mt and mixed it 50/50 with real pollen and had good luck. I don't like to use straight substitute, it's just not nutritious enough.

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